Thanks Martin, will check out that site. Axe I was thinking of going for a 26cm pan because I'm not as skilled as BIR chefs and will doubtless slop the sauce over the cooker unless I have a little bit of spare capacity in the pan! My hob is electric, so I don't need to select a small pan so that gas flame can lick up the outside of it (possibly one reason why smallish pans are used in BIRs?)