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Lets Talk Curry / Cooking Methods
« Last post by tempest63 on November 23, 2025, 07:07 PM »
I have long cooked my curries in cast iron cookware but  I bought a Ninja slow cooker for making bone broth as my previous slow cooker seemed to boil everything,  even when on low.
The ninja has a sear function and I thought I would give it a go to brown onions and meat then turn it onto slow cooker and compare how the curries turned out.
I tried an often cooked Madhur Jaffrey Rogan Josh made with shin of beef, and a traditional north Indian korma with mutton, no cream or nuts, which is one of our regular recipes.
There is no comparison. Neither of those cooked in the ninja came out with any great depth of flavour. They seemed a bit wishy washy in comparison to our usual dishes.
I cooked another mutton korma today and the depth of flavour between the two was very noticeable.
Whether it is because I am unfamiliar with cooking in the ninja may be the reason, but a long slow cook in a Le Creuset pan returned a much better result.
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Lets Talk Curry / Re: Balti
« Last post by tempest63 on November 23, 2025, 06:55 PM »
I still have many Pat Chapman books at home, they were some of my earliest Indian cookbooks, influenced no doubt as I was a member of the Curry Club.
I must admit they haven’t been opened in a lot of years but now you mention the Balti book, it may inspire me to go through them again. :smile:
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Lets Talk Curry / Re: Balti
« Last post by Kashmiri Bob on November 23, 2025, 11:29 AM »
This is said to be an authentic Balti Chicken recipe obtained from a hotelier by the author Sabiha Khokhar, and included in her 1995 book A Taste of Baltistan.

The book includes a number of interesting recipes that I will try over the course of time, but I would suggest that this particular recipe won’t be one of them without certain amendments . I think that the late inclusion of coarsely ground cumin and coriander would result in a raw “uncooked” spice taste and an unpleasant texture.

I bring it to your attention as a conversation topic and to get your comments.


Balti Chicken

Ingredients
1kg chicken on the bone, cut into 5 cm (2 inch) pieces
3 tablespoons oil
60g grated onion
1 tablespoon grated fresh garlic
750g finely chopped fresh tomatoes
 or 500g chopped canned tomatoes
1 teaspoon ground turmeric
½ teaspoon red chilli powder
2 teaspoons salt
2 tablespoons ghee
1 tablespoon coarsely ground cumin
1 tablespoon coarsely ground coriander
2 tablespoons grated fresh root ginger
4 tablespoons chopped fresh coriander
2 finely sliced jalapeño peppers (optional)
1 teaspoon garam masala

Method
Wash the chicken pieces with cold water and put in a colander to drain.
Heat the oil in a karahi or deep frying pan.
 Add the onion and garlic and stir-fry for 1 minute on high heat.
Add the tomatoes and cook uncovered on medium heat for 10 minutes or until the liquid is reduced.
Add the chicken pieces, turmeric, red chilli powder and salt.
 Stir well and cook, covered, on low heat for 20–25 minutes, or until the chicken is tender.
 On medium heat, allow all excess liquid to evaporate until a thick gravy remains.
Add the ghee, ground cumin, ground coriander, ginger and chopped coriander.
 Simmer for 7–10 minutes or until the fat separates out.
 Add the sliced jalapeños if desired and garnish with the garam masala.

Serve with:
chapattis, tandoori roti, or naan.

There were a lot of Balti books published in the '90s T63. At this time we were led to believe everything was done pretty much from scratch and with fresh ingredients. I still have a copy of Pat Chapman's Balti Curry Cookbook (The exciting new curry technique). He also went down the Baltistan route, and there are some interesting references to the Birmingham balti. All the recipes look like pure guesswork to me; inclusion of Balti lobster and Balti oyster recipes sends any semblance of credibility well and truly out of the window. The real balti is cheap BIR cafe food, always was and always will/should be, no matter how it's dressed up. It's also wonderful, but not so cheap anymore.

Rob
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Lets Talk Curry / Re: Balti
« Last post by Kashmiri Bob on November 23, 2025, 10:56 AM »
I recall Al uses his old 2nd base gravy for the Shababs' balti. AKA the "Kitchen Sink" base:

https://youtu.be/LOn9wkjLpCc?si=d8ukERjXUZ3jWO-0

There are quite a few ingredients. No chance whatsoever for success with this one, unfortunately, imo.

Misty's Shababs' base is pretty good, with a few modifications. I have just made a batch. Have previously achieved a perfect Shabab's copy using it; just hoping I have remembered how to do it.

Rob
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Lets Talk Curry / Re: One for the balti connoisseur...
« Last post by Kashmiri Bob on November 18, 2025, 07:24 PM »


Balti chana masala. With freshly made naan, left over french fries and egg fried rice. Just needed 1L of diet coke to complete the order.

Rob
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Lets Talk Curry / Re: Balti
« Last post by tempest63 on November 17, 2025, 07:43 PM »
This is said to be an authentic Balti Chicken recipe obtained from a hotelier by the author Sabiha Khokhar, and included in her 1995 book A Taste of Baltistan.

The book includes a number of interesting recipes that I will try over the course of time, but I would suggest that this particular recipe won’t be one of them without certain amendments . I think that the late inclusion of coarsely ground cumin and coriander would result in a raw “uncooked” spice taste and an unpleasant texture.

I bring it to your attention as a conversation topic and to get your comments.


Balti Chicken

Ingredients
1kg chicken on the bone, cut into 5 cm (2 inch) pieces
3 tablespoons oil
60g grated onion
1 tablespoon grated fresh garlic
750g finely chopped fresh tomatoes
 or 500g chopped canned tomatoes
1 teaspoon ground turmeric
½ teaspoon red chilli powder
2 teaspoons salt
2 tablespoons ghee
1 tablespoon coarsely ground cumin
1 tablespoon coarsely ground coriander
2 tablespoons grated fresh root ginger
4 tablespoons chopped fresh coriander
2 finely sliced jalapeño peppers (optional)
1 teaspoon garam masala

Method
Wash the chicken pieces with cold water and put in a colander to drain.
Heat the oil in a karahi or deep frying pan.
 Add the onion and garlic and stir-fry for 1 minute on high heat.
Add the tomatoes and cook uncovered on medium heat for 10 minutes or until the liquid is reduced.
Add the chicken pieces, turmeric, red chilli powder and salt.
 Stir well and cook, covered, on low heat for 20–25 minutes, or until the chicken is tender.
 On medium heat, allow all excess liquid to evaporate until a thick gravy remains.
Add the ghee, ground cumin, ground coriander, ginger and chopped coriander.
 Simmer for 7–10 minutes or until the fat separates out.
 Add the sliced jalapeños if desired and garnish with the garam masala.

Serve with:
chapattis, tandoori roti, or naan.

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Lets Talk Curry / Re: Balti
« Last post by tempest63 on November 16, 2025, 07:24 AM »
Coming back to this a bit late I’m not sure if you guys have seen the Hairy Bikers episode where they visit Shababs for a Balti. This YouTube episode has been filmed off somebody’s tv so the quality is poor but, but if you can find their “chicken and egg” series on TV it was one of those episodes.
https://youtu.be/G7CBbWW-4U0?si=-hCXTNakJhMnrzfW

This guy is also on you tube with his version of the same Balti cooked on the link above. He uses a shababs base gravy which I believe is on another of his YouTube episodes
https://youtu.be/cHSERd71R2w
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Lets Talk Curry / Re: One for the balti connoisseur...
« Last post by Kashmiri Bob on November 13, 2025, 01:10 PM »
Balti meat (pathia) with egg fried rice.









Would have preferred mutton, but economising.


Rob
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Lets Talk Curry / Re: One for the balti connoisseur...
« Last post by Kashmiri Bob on November 03, 2025, 01:56 PM »
Homemade Balti chicken (madras). With rice and mango chutney.





Too much pulp in this one. Lost the taste/flavour.

Rob
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Lets Talk Curry / Re: One for the balti connoisseur...
« Last post by Kashmiri Bob on November 02, 2025, 01:13 PM »
Apart from the chips  :smile:

Recommend the Samphire Fries I posted recently Phil. On the menu at Rajah Monkey, Birmingham (part of the Lasan group). A reasonably priced high-end dining accompaniment. Just £4.50. Actually the cheapest thing there, except for the papadum basket, which is £3.50, I think.

Found they are also mighty fine with a Craster kipper, vinegar and tomato ketchup.

Rob

 
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