Topic: Why we cannot produce that missing taste ?

[pete]

The curry gravy pot look to me as a garbage pot.

Would you still buy it though?
I am a "casual" vegetarian but I love restaurant curry so much.
I am sure I will still get my veg vindaloo regularly.
In fairness to Pat Chapman.
In his "Favourite Restaurant Curry" book, he mentions on numerous occasions the adding of stock.
It's this book which has the "Akhni Stock" recipe.
It is similar to what I was told although not boiled as long, no Black Cardomons and is used as a liquid rather than a jelly

[Curry King]

Now you've tried it Pete is it worth the extra hassle?

[pete]

Now you've tried it Pete is it worth the extra hassle?

Definitely yes.
It really adds something
I'll make the jelly up in a large batch, then freeze it in portions

[Curry King]

It really adds something

Im thinking though, as you don't tend to make chicken currys, that the extra something you can taste us chicken curry makers would have already due to just cooking with chicken?? The only way to know I suppose is give it a go, if i have some time this week Il try it.

Cheers Pete

[merrybaker]

Do you think the chefs who use chicken jelly are the same ones who let the sauce ferment outside the fridge?? I'm starting to feel queasy....

[Curry King]

Do you think the chefs who use chicken jelly are the same ones who let the sauce ferment outside the fridge?  I'm starting to feel queasy....

Say that they are and they worked at your favorite takeaway would you stop eating there?

[ghanna]

Dear Pete
Chicken jelly or stock is full of goodness.
All the classic and authentic Indian chicken curries use it (they boil the UN-boned chicken pieces in the curry sauce  until the chicken is cooked )
My self i used  it a lot in all my cooking.Nothing wrong in it
What i mean is this ,they should not represent the curries as vegetarian curries when they are not.
This what i call deception
Now i am off the restaurant curries after i knew that they don't eat the curries that they cook themselves from the gravy pot(garbage pot ),it is really awful and disgusting from them to do that to all of us.
GOD help me  to resist the temptation of going back to eat this again .
I am going to cook it myself at home with your very very nice gravy (600ml oil ), i know there is the missing taste issue , but what  else can i do ? .
Thanks
ghanna

[Curry King]

Now i am off the restaurant curries after i knew that they don't eat the curries that they cook themselves from the gravy pot(garbage pot ),it is really awful and disgusting from them to do that to all of us.
GOD help me to resist the temptation of going back to eat this again .

w00t!!!!? Sacrilege, get out!!? lol, only joking its not uk.food+drink.indian!!!?? ?

Seriously though how bad can it be, these places must get checked by environmental health visitors etc.. I'm sure if something that bad was going on such a massive scale then someone would have spotted something over the years.

[Keith]

Ghanna , don't believe everything you hear . My local takeaway told me that they used this method of chicken stock about 10 years ago . I'm not saying that it doesn't go on in some establishments but there are a great deal more immaculate kitchens that follow guidelines . In this day and age of health and safety in kitchens it just wouldn't be worth their while decieving us with garbage . They'd be closed down in a minute .
Thanks for all your comments and recipes though Ghanna
Keith

[Yellow Fingers]

Seriously though how bad can it be, these places must get checked by environmental health visitors etc.. I'm sure if something that bad was going on such a massive scale then someone would have spotted something over the years.

In this day and age of health and safety in kitchens it just wouldn't be worth their while decieving us with garbage . They'd be closed down in a minute .

I think you're confusing two totally separate issues. The restaurants aren't contravening any health and safety codes by using chicken stock in the sauce, if infact that is what they are doing. And environmental health don't ever go into the exact contents of a particular recipe unless there is a very obvious reason to do so, e.g. people getting regularly ill.

What they would be guilty of is contravening trading standards by advertising a dish as vegetarian when it has chicken stock in it. As others have mentioned I wouldn't want them to be pulled up for this if it meant that my restaurant curries lost that taste because of it.