Topic: FED UP

[Geezah]

Personal attacks and baiting need nipping in the bud as soon as they start, if a user wants to argue with another user then they can do it through pm's

I do think that this forum needs to look at its T&C's, re write a few and enforce it when its broken, as it is all we see is petty arguments and edited posts with no real deterent to adhere to a firm but fair policy.

[natterjak]

We've had many such discussions in the past and to be honest nothing ever changes. Everyone can air their views but when it comes down to it, only one person's opinion matters - our enigmatic Mr Admin. This site has survived a long time but it might be interesting to speculate whether that was through efficient administration or simply lack of effective competition. That of course may change in the future.

[George]

Of the half dozen or so forums I visit, this is the only one without effective moderation.

Your view of "effective moderation" is likely to be different to everyone else's, so that's why I'm not in favour.

If you prefer a 'police state' type environment, then perhaps you may see other forums as better. I don't.

[Malc.]

I'm not saying I'm incapable of more aggressive or 'stricter' moderating. I just see it as non-desirable, whether I do it, or anyone else does. As Phil says, everyone needs more self-control, respect, or whatever.  Everyone will have different ideas on what should be moderated. To bring in some kind of sheriff and his deputies to clean up the forum would be a disaster.

Neither is it too much for me to handle because I'm not checking every single word - what a thankless task that would be.

I am not suggesting you are incapable George, nor am I trying to slur you in anyway on the contrary, I thank you for the efforts that you make. I also respect your opinion but simply disagree. It would be a happy world if everyone had more self control, respect, or whatever, but it will never be so.

Being a moderator is a thankless task but it is an essential position to keeping order on a forum. We don't need a maverick or a janitor to clean up the forum, just someone that is prepared to help prevent the forum getting messy in the first place.

Of course, there might not be that much to read, if all the bickering is deleted.  :

[Garabi Army]

Sadly the bickering gets in the way of where we want to be; cooking great BIR style curries. Many threads I have read that are close to solving a particular problem usually get hijacked by individuals with personal vendettas therefore pi$$ing everyone off to the extent that the thread dies a death.
The mods really need to get a grip on this.

Cheers,
Ken

[Curryking32000]

Of the half dozen or so forums I visit, this is the only one without effective moderation.

Your view of "effective moderation" is likely to be different to everyone else's, so that's why I'm not in favour.

If you prefer a 'police state' type environment, then perhaps you may see other forums as better. I don't.

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George, it not about a 'poiice state' and i'm all for freedom of speach but if the behaviour is damaging to the overall aims and reputation of the site and upsetting people, then there needs a be a firm hand.

I am an administrator and moderator for a forum and it is absolutely essential to keep on top of internet bullies and yes it is up to admin discression but should be written in stone in the T&C's so that everyone knows what to expect.  Unfortunately I have had to ban some people after a number of warnings.  Some people deliberately go out of their way to manipulate other peoples feelings and they get a kick out of it and if they're consistantly disruptive then they should go.  Is this not a social forum?  if so what is being done about anti-social behaviour?  With the greatest respect, you're philosophy seems to be just to let it go.  You can't have a civil society without certain rules and regulations in order to maintain and uphold civil behaviour for the benefit of the majority and unfortunately some people are not behaving in a civil way.  Its not a police state to do this, its just common sense

[Aussie Mick]

Could not agree more with all the comments posted.   Sick to the back teeth of the e book before I even see it.  It's about time members focused on what the forum is about and achieving it instead of the constant bickering.  I thought things would improve with the departure of one individual.  But it seems as though others are trying to fill the void

Which individual CH?

[George]

With the greatest respect, you're philosophy seems to be just to let it go.  You can't have a civil society without certain rules and regulations in order to maintain and uphold civil behaviour for the benefit of the majority and unfortunately some people are not behaving in a civil way.  Its not a police state to do this, its just common sense

It's not within my present mandate to moderate anything beyond spam, swear words and the very worst insults. You get into a very subjective area once you try and decide who and what to censor beyond that. I see such moderation as worse than letting it go. I hate forums which are over-moderated.

[mr.mojorisin]

Geo...your thoughts please on why exactly you would delete this whole thread....utterly bemusing.

Is this "head in the sand" syndrome.

as far as I am aware most decent members are FED UP with the constant bickering/posting tosh/baiting (delete as appropriate) hence the title of said thread.

If your idea of moderation is deleting a thread whereby most members would agree on its content ...then the game is up for us all, sadly.....

[Curryking32000]

It's not within my present mandate to moderate anything beyond spam, swear words and the very worst insults. You get into a very subjective area once you try and decide who and what to censor beyond that. I see such moderation as worse than letting it go. I hate forums which are over-moderated.

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If its not within your present mandate and you're not willing to stick your neck out to prevent such anti social behaviour, then whose job is it as verbal and mental abuse goes beyond swear words and the very worst insults.