Sorry about that Admin, I accidently hit the delete button. I was about to say that sometime ago when I was working for my local takeaway I had that pleasure of waching the owner making a vat of massala sauce { base sauce } he first boiled the chickens, then after removing them he proceded to add a moutain of onions, 2 bunches of corriander { chopped finly }, mixed herbs, bay leaves, vegatale gee, tomatoe puri, and to my suprise a muslin bag containing garlic, ginger, Green Cardamom, Fennel Seeds,Cassia Bark, ground Methi seeds. Once boiled the bag was taken out and liquidised, then left to simmer. Hope this is some use to those who are chasing the ulimate B.I.R. curry base. Cheer's Paul