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Curry Sauce, Curry Base , Curry Gravy Recipes, Secret Curry Base / Re: ++++MDB’s Birmingham Balti Gravy 100% Clone Al Frash Balti Restaurant ++++
« Last post by Kashmiri Bob on September 11, 2025, 09:40 PM »
Mick's base.



Incoming. The Al Frash signature dish. The Butterfly. King prawns, chicken tikka and mushrooms. Just need to find some quality prawns.

Rob
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Cooking Methods / Re: The Tilted Pan
« Last post by Kashmiri Bob on September 11, 2025, 10:42 AM »
A few more general thoughts/conclusions on tilting the pan when making BIR curry.

In a nutshell, it allows the gravy/curry to be reduced for longer periods and at significantly higher temperatures than the (contemporary) approach we are familiar with. This is explained by differences in the surface area of the pan in contact with the curry. Other factors that facilitate the higher temperatures are a) more oil is used and b) stirring is kept to an absolute minimum (throughout cooking). Counterintuitively this means preparation of the curry will take longer. In fact, the cooking time is often doubled.

This is a technique that is still used in some TAs/restaurants. It is combined with rich/aromatic base gravies and pre-cooks. Seasoned oils (including bhaji oil) are also used by some establishments. Collectively these techniques underlie the old school BIR curry approach. This for many will solve the missing 5% (and some).

Most TAs/restaurants nowadays do not do this. Too slow.

Rob

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Lets Talk Curry / Re: Balti
« Last post by livo on September 09, 2025, 11:23 PM »
Good work mate.  I haven't done a curry recently and I have plenty of good beef in the freezer.  I'll give this a try.
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Lets Talk Curry / Re: Balti
« Last post by Kashmiri Bob on September 09, 2025, 10:57 PM »
Quote from: livo on September 09, 2025, 09:59 PM
Another "Real" Birmingham Balti.  Stephen Heap makes a Beef Balti. It looks OK except we don't know the gravy used.  I guess you could find out or just use your own favourite.

https://youtu.be/OwVkEEyeYZA?si=svSJyIQAf2C9eKAd

It's this one livo. Quite a way down in the video description text.

https://youtu.be/lJ58WK03jXk?si=87oW3NYaYGDq0p8k

Rob



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Lets Talk Curry / Re: Balti
« Last post by livo on September 09, 2025, 09:59 PM »
Another "Real" Birmingham Balti.  Stephen Heap makes a Beef Balti. It looks OK except we don't know the gravy used.  I guess you could find out or just use your own favourite.

https://youtu.be/OwVkEEyeYZA?si=svSJyIQAf2C9eKAd
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Lets Talk Curry / Re: Britain's most delicious curry houses
« Last post by Kashmiri Bob on September 09, 2025, 10:48 AM »
I met the Opheem chef briefly many years ago. Nice chap. He was at the Lasan then. Remember when he was on the telly?

"I saw flashes of genius in Aktar's cooking...You taste it and it blows your mind away, phenomenal".

Gordon Ramsay. The F Word, Channel 4.

Rob
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Lets Talk Curry / Re: Britain's most delicious curry houses
« Last post by George on September 08, 2025, 09:18 AM »
One of my current interests is trying different places for breakfast. I quite often pay up to about £25 and consider it fair value for the setting and spread of food on offer. It's mostly abroad, not least because the UK is often so expensive, as in poor value for money. There's a 5 star hotel near Watford called The Grove which offers breakfast for £40 and lunches from £50. The buffets look very good, as can be seen in some youtube videos. I have been meaning to try one of those options but, I must admit, the prices put me off, plus recent health warnings to be more careful about what I eat. The Birmingham Indian place with 2 Michelin stars is even more expensive. I am tempted, though, for early October.
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Lets Talk Curry / Re: Britain's most delicious curry houses
« Last post by Peripatetic Phil on September 08, 2025, 08:13 AM »
I agree it’s a lot, George (well, for most of us, at least) but I would be willing to spend that amount once or twice in the course of a year if I was reasonably confident that I would get value for money ...
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Lets Talk Curry / Re: Britain's most delicious curry houses
« Last post by George on September 08, 2025, 07:12 AM »
Many thanks for finding the review and posting the link. I agree it increases the chance of me visiting the restaurant. I expect to be visiting Birmingham at the start of October. But £60 or more is so much to pay for a meal, regardless of how good it might be.
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Lets Talk Curry / Re: Britain's most delicious curry houses
« Last post by Peripatetic Phil on September 06, 2025, 06:26 PM »
Quote from: George on September 06, 2025, 03:08 PM
Thanks for the video link. I certainly wouldn't spend money for all the fuss and trouble they go to for food which seems more about stylish presentation, rather than anything else. I suggest it's OTT. I'm after great taste and flavour. Even if some of their food tastes amazing, the quantities seems so small, I think it could be frustrating. As someone says in a comment below the video, you risk leaving still hungry.

Read this review, George — I think that you may change your mind ...
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