Topic: Climate change: Ban gas grid for new homes 'in six years'

[Peripatetic Phil]

Absolutely.

[Garp]

No point continuing this debate then  :

[livo]

Climate change is a fact of life - with Nature doing things to it on a scale we could never come close to - volcanoes one of the best examples.  History gives us periods of ice ages, tropical climates even in UK - and it will ever be thus. 
Stopping gas cookers / heating in UK is going to do naff all - especially when China is building coal fired power plants at an astronomical rate to bring its industry up to par with the West - https://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/12/02/the-truth-about-china-2400-new-coal-plants-will-thwart-any-paris-cop21-pledges/.  China have agreed to slow down in 2030 once they are up to speed !

That article is a few years old now so we're probably well on the way to that number, and between China and India there was a planned construction of nearly 1600 new coal fired power plants, 2400 worldwide with an annual increase of CO2 released into the atmosphere of 6.5 billion tonnes. A measly 40 new plants in Japan. Australia wont build a single one, even to replace the old ones that are about to be taken off-grid, and yet we will gladly export a significant portion of the required coal for these new overseas plants.  Something doesn't ring true with our Government telling us we can't build a single plant due to "global" climate change commitments while it's fine for China to build over 1000.  Not that there would be much point telling the Chinese they can't have our coal.

Nuclear power plants are completely safe (until something happens to show that they really aren't).  Google Nuclear waste to see just how big the problem is already.  Taiwan with 3 plants. Orchid Island storage site. https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3472965

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[Peripatetic Phil]

"Citizens' jury rejects push for South Australian nuclear waste dump"

[livo]

Phil, I remember this from the time. It was news nationwide, not just in SA.  There was the notion that South Australia's already radioactive deserts (British WWII testing) would be a good place to store the world's nuclear waste, for a fee. We don't have a nuclear power plant and we have a single medical grade reactor at Lucas Heights on the outskirts of Sydney. This proposal would have meant political death to any Party and leader had it gone ahead.

Some tried to argue we had an obligation to house this waste as it was Australia that supplied the original fuel. The problem with spent fuel waste, as we all know, is it's property of being quite long lived. It wouldn't just be our grandchildren that are left to deal with it. SNF containing U-233 has a half life of 159200 years.  Areas used for this purpose can never be "cleaned up" by mankind.

The waste product of making luminous watch dials in the early 20th century, containing Radium, is thought to be responsible for the deaths of people who lived in the harbourside suburb that housed the factory. Google Nelson Parade Hunters Hill Attempts to relocate the contaminated earth from the site became a political hot potato.