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thanks Kev i also found masala bazaar on st helens road very nice and helpful i planned to give pathia a shot and having never used tamarind before when the gentalman helped me find it he could see i looks somewhat confused.he kindly explained how to use the tamarind( i have it as a solid block that needs to be left to soak over night in walm water and then drained to remove the seeds) he also wished me luck i will go there again puerly because of the service.middle asia market is very highly priced and limited amount of items. Exsotica was late opening so never bothered to go back there.