Hi andymac i have recently started to get my mince lamb from a Hahal butcher and the mince is perfect for kebabs and keema think it might be lean mince but not 100 percent sure, also been getting chicken thighs as well, these thing from the butcher are massive one thigh can feed two people for a chicken tikka starter, next time i get some will post a picture of chicken thighs and mince lamb.