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Biriani Dishes / Re: "Cull yaw" (culled ewe) biryani
« Last post by Peripatetic Phil on December 10, 2024, 11:39 AM »
The Oriental version (in a tin) or the cubes, Livo ?  I use the former but not the latter, preferring the chicken stock pots for western chicken dishes.
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Biriani Dishes / Re: "Cull yaw" (culled ewe) biryani
« Last post by livo on December 10, 2024, 10:36 AM »
I use Knorr Chicken Powder in everything, so I will not say that is a bad thing Phil.
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Biriani Dishes / Re: "Cull yaw" (culled ewe) biryani
« Last post by Peripatetic Phil on December 10, 2024, 09:36 AM »
it wouldn't be too difficult to whip up a homemade lamb stock

Agreed, which I invariably do.  But it always includes a Knorr lamb stock pot, because they are so d@mned good !
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Biriani Dishes / Re: "Cull yaw" (culled ewe) biryani
« Last post by livo on December 09, 2024, 10:02 PM »
You'll probably never get that answer Phil, considering the only listed ingredient is at the top with 66%.  Meaning the remaining 34% is made up the other ingredients, supposedly in decreasing order of proportionality. 

Salt could be either side of 25%. 

Palm fat is palm oil, which is somewhat controversial, but I seriously doubt it will kill you very fast.  While there are some questions on health, the main issues with it appears to be ecological or related to human rights.

The scientific names of the other ingredients (flavour enhancers, etc.) can be off-putting, but many of these are naturally occurring anyway, or derived from natural sources.  Monosodium and disodium are self-explanatory. E621, E627 and E631 on the food additives list.

In reading that list of substances, I don't see anything I would be fearful of.  However, it wouldn't be too difficult to whip up a homemade lamb stock.
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Lets Talk Curry / Re: Curry Gravy/Sauce
« Last post by livo on December 09, 2024, 09:32 PM »
I don’t want anything too strongly spiced, just a chicken gravy with a hint of spice to complement the chicken and potatoes.

I know this may sound a bit weird but here's what I would do.  There is a "not too well-known" fried chicken brand in The Philippines called Jollibee Chicken (not too different from a well-known Southern Fried Chicken).  Anyway, there are many copycat recipes around for their gravy, which I have made and modified over the last few years.  It has a nice peppery and umami hit to it, and it could quite easily be adapted to suite an Indian style with the addition of a mild tea of spices (or akhni stock) or even a small amount of a mild curry paste, like a Balti paste or a Korma paste.  The cream or milk is optional in my opinion and can easily be omitted for a less rich gravy / sauce.

Here is one link to a recipe, but a simple google search will produce many others.
https://www.mashed.com/1331345/copycat-jollibee-gravy-recipe/

Cooking their copycat chicken isn't too bad either.
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Lets Talk Curry / Re: Curry Gravy/Sauce
« Last post by livo on December 09, 2024, 09:15 PM »
As you're making stock anyway how about just adding the usual garam masala items such as cardamom, cinnamon, cloves etc. to Indian-spice the stock. Not really sure what you're after as adding anything more would make it a curry sauce rather than a gravy.

Just found this page and it looks interesting. Maybe a modified one of those gravies would suit?  https://setupmyhotel.com/hotel-staff-training/kitchen-staff-training/basic-indian-curries-and-gravy-list-standard-recipe-hotels-chef/

I found that site back in May 2020 Santa. I posted it here and it was discussed a little at the time.

https://curry-recipes.co.uk/curry/index.php?topic=15479.msg137266#msg137266

It was around the time Romain from Glebe Kitchen was doing his "Hotel Style" stuff as well.

The biggest problem I found with "Hotel Style" mother gravies was that you can find recipes for the actual gravies, but not for the dishes that use them.  Although, I did use the white gravy to make best White Chicken Korma I've ever achieved.
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Biriani Dishes / Re: "Cull yaw" (culled ewe) biryani
« Last post by Peripatetic Phil on December 09, 2024, 08:14 PM »
"What fraction" remains unanswered, Santa ...
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Lets Talk Curry / Re: Curry Gravy/Sauce
« Last post by tempest63 on December 09, 2024, 07:45 PM »
As you're making stock anyway how about just adding the usual garam masala items such as cardamom, cinnamon, cloves etc. to Indian-spice the stock. Not really sure what you're after as adding anything more would make it a curry sauce rather than a gravy.

Just found this page and it looks interesting. Maybe a modified one of those gravies would suit?  https://setupmyhotel.com/hotel-staff-training/kitchen-staff-training/basic-indian-curries-and-gravy-list-standard-recipe-hotels-chef/


Thanks for that link. Looks promising.
I had found a basic paste recipe to stir into the crispy bits in the roasting pans to quickly cook off before adding chicken stock and thickening.
I don’t want anything too strongly spiced, just a chicken gravy with a hint of spice to complement the chicken and potatoes.
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Biriani Dishes / Re: "Cull yaw" (culled ewe) biryani
« Last post by Secret Santa on December 09, 2024, 07:07 PM »
  sugar, monosodium glutamate, disodium inosinate, disodium guanylate, xanthan gum, locust bean gum, caramel syrup, maltodextrin.

Now, you tell me where in a properly fresh-made stock you'd find any of that junk.
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Biriani Dishes / Re: "Cull yaw" (culled ewe) biryani
« Last post by Peripatetic Phil on December 09, 2024, 02:53 PM »
"Concentrated lamb stock (66%)(water, lamb)" is hardly "ultra-processed junk", dear boy ...  If you look at the ingredient list again, tell me honestly what fraction you identify as "ultra-processed junk".
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