Topic: Most recipes don't work

[George]

Sorry if I missed something here as although I think DS is great I just cant remember her running a BIR? As we aren't taking Steak and Kidney Pie I don't know why anyone bothered to reply to George. My guess is she would screw up the Taz base first go, just like the rest of us.

Yes, it certainly looks like you've missed the whole point. It's perfectly valid to come up with a general observation and then suggest it MIGHT apply to the specific case of BIR recipes. In my experience, most (i.e more than half of) books claiming to reveal BIR recipes are a bit of a disappointment, to say the least, and I thought many people here tend to agree. It might be amusing to mention Big Macs and Steak & Kidney pudding but it's totally irrelevant to the main point I'm making.

[solarsplace]

Hi

Ray, nice ideas and points for thought.

I really think before someone should be allowed to vote on a recipe, they should have to post a picture of their efforts and a small review, perhaps only a sentence or two. But they should demonstrate that they have made a proper attempt to make the dish. Personally I really enjoy seeing others attempts to cook a dish and tend to favour those where the OP has an accompanying photo with their recipe and members report back with photo progress. Gives me confidence when I try to make it that it resembles others attempts etc.

Cheers

[Vindaloo-crazy]

Sorry Ray but anti-social behaviour is just that. I hardly post here now but need to point out that the forum is going to fall to pieces if I don't mention something.

[Razor]

SP,

Not a bad idea!  Got to admit, I tend to favour the recipes where a photo has been provided.  Not because I'm gullible enough to think because it looks good, it will taste good but, it shows it's a proper recipe, created by the recipe provider who has obviously spent many an hour trying to perfect the dish.

Ray

[George]

every recipe provided could be accompanied by a review count for example;
Razors Seekh kebab with photos (27 reviews)
To validate how good the recipe is, a positive or negative function could be added to the review, worked out by percentage, so the title would now read;
Razors Seekh kebab with photos (27 reviews, 98% positive)  :
I wonder if the above could be an added function to the forum, Stew?
Whadya think?

What a good idea! If it's too difficult to arrange within the forum software, perhaps we could do it manually by editing the thread title or a bit of text within the first (recipe) post. It could read something like "27 reviews, 98% positive as at Nov 2010". Even if that's a bit out of date by March 2011 it would be better than at present, and could be updated from time to time.

[Razor]

Hi George,

I don't know anything about 'IT' so I don't know how easy this would be to facilitate.  Maybe some of our more 'Tekkie' members could comment?

You see this kind of thing on ebay, holiday sites, amazon but I'm well aware that these are funded sites so maybe a free forum like ours couldn't accommodate such a facility?

As a moderator, would you be in a position to query this with Stew?  It would be a great addition to the forum.

The only downside that I can see is, if only one member reviews the recipe positively, then the post would show 100%.  Not a problem if it shows '1 review, 100%'  at least that would give it some perspective!

Ray

[Peripatetic Phil]

I don't know anything about 'IT' so I don't know how easy this would be to facilitate.  Maybe some of our more 'Tekkie' members could comment?

Within the present  SMF 2.0 RC1.2 framework, pretty close to impossible. I would suggest (without massive manual intervention).  If you want feedback/reviews/statistics/whatever, then you need to look for a forum package that would support that out of the box (because I'm pretty sure that Stew doesn't have time to write it for himself).  To be honest, I can't think of a single forum to which I subscribe that has the same sort of functionality as Ebay's feedback mechanism, and that is basically what is needed.  I can only suggest we all keep our eyes peeled, try to identify a package that would do everything that we need, then ask Stew whether he has any interesting in migrating the whole forum to a new software platform.  SMF uses the idea of "testimonials" within their own forum, but that still requires moderator intervention before the testimonials go live, and I have no idea whether it can also produce useful statistics.

** Phil.

[George]

As a moderator, would you be in a position to query this with Stew?  It would be a great addition to the forum.

Yes, by all means, although anyone can make a forum suggestion, or email Stew, of course.

I suspect it will be too difficult and/or costly to arrange within the forum software, unless it happens to be a standard feature. It's why I suggested a simple manual alternative - gaining perhaps 80% of the benefit for 20% of the effort. I'll be happy to edit/update selected threads in this small way, if most people - including Stew - are in agreement, and we can also agree the calculations in each case, e.g. a figure like 98%.

I agree that photos are useful but it's so much easier to produce a result which looks, rather than tastes good.

[Malc.]

A review system is a good idea, the closest you could get to a reliable method of judging a recipe overall. I don't think I have ever seen such a thing on a forum before though. A forum really, for all intent and purpose, is a review of sorts. A topic is posted and people reply with their comments, the only thing missing is a count.

We could effectively achieve this now by using the Poll option for topics. Creating a topic with a simple 'Do you rate this recipe? Yes/No' option would enable viewers to cast a vote. The downside is that each an every recipe topic would have to be edited and reviews would be anonymous which I feel would also reduce the reliability of the voting system.

[Graeme]

I don't rate Delia at all since seeing her mixing stuff by hand with all them rings on her fingers 
Horrid 

I tried to decide if this would bother me, and wasn't sure. Then I went to the kitchen to bone a chicken, and found myself doing so while wearing a watch with a webbing strap.  So I guess on balance it wouldn't really bother me unless I knew she'd been mucking out her horse just before coming into the studio ... !

** Phil.

Sorry for the late reply.

I just thought it was out of order to do this on television, unprofessional even ?
I thought she should have known better. The rings were very large with plenty of places for them...err bugs to hide until washed out via the mixing.
I would love to have taken a sample from her ring. I hate to think what may have been around that area  Mind you i also notice quite a few celebrity chefs touching there faces and even worse touching/picking there nostrils while talking/cooking on set.
Am ! the only one this bothers ?