Chewytikka,
Thank you for adding in your usage. I do take note of what you say and you have saved me much effort in the past - which I do appreciate.
The list was aimed at finding what others have tried but no longer use.
The nightmare is because I taste every ingredient before using and My taste buds easily decide on a thumbs up or down.
For all on the list the initial judgement was thumbs down. I then tried them out only to get an inferior result. Anyone who's made food only to be disappointed will understand - I suppose agony is a better description than nightmares but nightmares haunt you and those ingredients do for me.
Im perfectly happy if my list is not for others. If it helps then great if not matters not to me.