Interesting thread. I totally agree with your comments haldi. vindaloo, and madras are the simplest bir dishes i have seen a bir chef make. As haldi points out it shows the true measure of your skills, (or lack in my case ! ) I always remember the chef at my local said bir chefs must learn madras first, as all other recipies derive from this. perhaps we should all go back to basics and master madras. Its a shame the chef from jbs lessons did not focus more on madras. I think that would have been very useful.