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Title: FREE British Indian Restaurant E-Book Download?
Post by: Cory Ander on April 06, 2012, 01:25 PM
Hi All,

No offence, to anyone, at all,....

....BUT!.....would anyone be interested in having a FREE "e-book" available for download from this forum?

If so, I would be more than happy to compile (or, at the very least, contribute to) one.  Maybe others would also feel so inclined?

OK, some may feel that it (i.e. my) contribution would not be as valuable as others', BUT I am happy (and I am inclined) to make one available (to the best of my ability, knowledge and efforts), for FREE, on this forum.

After all, surely this forum is all about FREE contributions towards replicating British Indian Restaurant curries at home?

Opinions please?
Title: Re: FREE British Indian Restaurant E-Book Download?
Post by: curryhell on April 06, 2012, 01:54 PM
I think its a superb idea, maybe written along the lines of the best recipes from CR0 mirroring the normal BIR menu including a couple of quality gravies and ensuring the technique is explained properly and in depth.  I'm sure we could reach a general concensus on which are the likely contenders for many of the dishes.   Let's see what the other regular contributors think :D
Title: Re: FREE British Indian Restaurant E-Book Download?
Post by: Geezah on April 06, 2012, 01:56 PM
I'm still very new to indian cooking so couldn't offer anything, but any form of good, free information is much welcomed.
I think an e-book compiled of the tried and tested recipes on these forums would be excellent and save having to dig around in old threads for ideas, or missing some of the jems that we do not notice.
Title: Re: FREE British Indian Restaurant E-Book Download?
Post by: Terramamba on April 06, 2012, 01:58 PM
I would definitely be very interested in a free e-book. I think it's a great idea CA! This forum is about free information and without it my curries would not be as good. I have bought the 'one' everyone is talking about, but there's more room on the over burdened recipe book shelf!

Not sure if I could contribute anything worthwhile, as all my recipes are from the forum. CT chicken tikka Jahl Frezi, madras and CH North Indian special are firm favourites of mine.

I've got onions, carrots and cabbage to transform now into base gravy :)

All the best
Colette
Title: Re: FREE British Indian Restaurant E-Book Download?
Post by: natterjak on April 06, 2012, 02:11 PM
I think it's a great idea CA and you've proven in the past you're good at clearly documenting recipes and organising information in a logical way so I'd be more than happy if you were willing to compile the book. The thing which worries me is how we will agree what should be included - consensus seems to be hard to find around here at times!  ;)

One thought - you might need to get Admin onboard with the idea because if the file is to be hosted on his server then downloads will contribute to his bandwidth bill.
Title: Re: FREE British Indian Restaurant E-Book Download?
Post by: Aussie Mick on April 06, 2012, 03:12 PM
Great idea CA.

Like Geezah, I wouldn't be able to contribute any recipes, as the only worthwhile recipes I know are the ones I have gained from this forum. I am more than happy to test out as many as possible though.... ;) :D


Title: Re: FREE British Indian Restaurant E-Book Download?
Post by: 976bar on April 06, 2012, 03:23 PM
Hi All,

No offence, to anyone, at all,....

....BUT!.....would anyone be interested in having a FREE "e-book" available for download from this forum?

If so, I would be more than happy to compile (or, at the very least, contribute to) one.  Maybe others would also feel so inclined?

OK, some may feel that it (i.e. my) contribution would not be as valuable as others', BUT I am happy (and I am inclined) to make one available (to the best of my ability, knowledge and efforts), for FREE, on this forum.

After all, surely this forum is all about FREE contributions towards replicating British Indian Restaurant curries at home?

Opinions please?

Hi Cory,

Go for it my friend, it would be greatly appreciated :)
Title: Re: FREE British Indian Restaurant E-Book Download?
Post by: Unclebuck on April 06, 2012, 04:06 PM
Cough.
http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/curry/index.php?topic=2355.0 (http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/curry/index.php?topic=2355.0)
Title: Re: FREE British Indian Restaurant E-Book Download?
Post by: curryhell on April 06, 2012, 05:09 PM
Nice one UB.  So where do we go from here then?
Title: Re: FREE British Indian Restaurant E-Book Download?
Post by: Salvador Dhali on April 06, 2012, 05:33 PM
A book bringing together the vast acreages of accumulated information on CRO is a splendid idea, and I'd be happy to help out in any way I can.

I see from UB's post that it's something that's been discussed before, but perhaps now the time is ripe?
Title: Re: FREE British Indian Restaurant E-Book Download?
Post by: Stephen Lindsay on April 06, 2012, 05:38 PM
CA I think it's a great idea.

The reservations I would have are that you don't involve too many people in helping you write it. Books written by "committee" tend not to be great texts. I'd suggest go ahead and write a draft and then invite comments/advice/suggestions etc?

I would be happy to assist with proof reading etc. if that's any help? I used to do this for a living and I currently write lots of reports for my job. Even if I say so myself I think I'm pretty good at checking out clarity, punctuation and grammar etc.

I also hope he won't mind me mentioning it but I think Phil has a very articulate and erudite writing style and would make a good contribution to such a project.

Steve
Title: Re: FREE British Indian Restaurant E-Book Download?
Post by: Unclebuck on April 06, 2012, 05:39 PM
Not saying it cant be done but i think we all agreed to disagree last time at it all fizzled out but that was for a "cr0 e-book" rather then a "cory-anders e-book"

the title says "FREE British Indian Restaurant E-Book Download"

Is it a cr0 ebook with members [who's willing] adding info/recipes from cr0 complied by CA or CA putting a ebook together with his own recipes.

I like the sound of both, would prefer the former but my worry with too much democracy eff all happens.

uncle-ebuck
Title: Re: FREE British Indian Restaurant E-Book Download?
Post by: Stephen Lindsay on April 06, 2012, 05:42 PM
I like the sound of both, would prefer the former but my worry with too much democracy eff all happens.
uncle-ebuck

Or people end up falling out...
Title: Re: FREE British Indian Restaurant E-Book Download?
Post by: Geezah on April 06, 2012, 07:15 PM
Would it be best for people to nominate and vote for whats included?
or
Put the book in sections based upon the usual base and currys by different forum members.

ie, if you want to be included in the book nominate your base and curry recipes and be prepared to write up a draft of your own recipes if you get voted to be included?
Title: Re: FREE British Indian Restaurant E-Book Download?
Post by: Unclebuck on April 06, 2012, 07:54 PM
Would it be best for people to nominate and vote for whats included?
or
Put the book in sections based upon the usual base and currys by different forum members.

ie, if you want to be included in the book nominate your base and curry recipes and be prepared to write up a draft of your own recipes if you get voted to be included?

not easy huh, its started
Title: Re: FREE British Indian Restaurant E-Book Download?
Post by: loveitspicy on April 06, 2012, 10:15 PM
Its a great Idea indeed - but will it cause arguments on the forum what the content should be and who's recipe should be included?

Go for it i say

best, Rich
Title: Re: FREE British Indian Restaurant E-Book Download?
Post by: Micky Tikka on April 06, 2012, 11:11 PM
  Great idea
My view in life is Theres always someone better keeps me on my toes and if your curry is not selected then you should take it on the chin
Mind you if my Boiled rice is not in it I'll be bloody upset >:(
Title: Re: FREE British Indian Restaurant E-Book Download?
Post by: George on April 07, 2012, 11:03 AM
I think it is a good idea, but just playing devil's advocate for a moment, why is a pdf document, fixed at a point in time, better than this forum? If the same effort was applied to tidying up the forum (recipe sections) a bit, wouldn't that be better?

Marketing-wise, though, I agree a tidy pdf document e-book does have a certain appeal.

I also agree it could cause a few disputes, e.g. why one person's recipe is included, and another left out. I don't see how it makes sense for a book to include more than one recipe for each dish. It may be difficult to decide which single recipe to include for naan bread, for example, when people have quite strong views as to the best approach. A forum or web-based recipe site can reflect that, and give lots of options, but a pdf document or published book can't, unless it starts to look untidy.
Title: Re: FREE British Indian Restaurant E-Book Download?
Post by: peterandjen on April 07, 2012, 12:40 PM
If it will be truly free for all to download then i would say go for it, personally i don't have many recipes on here and wouldn't mind them being used. If on the other hand there was any money changing hands i would say no.
Title: Re: FREE British Indian Restaurant E-Book Download?
Post by: curryhell on April 07, 2012, 12:46 PM
If it will be truly free for all to download then i would say go for it, personally i don't have many recipes on here and wouldn't mind them being used. If on the other hand there was any money changing hands i would say no.
I thought this too but then had a further thought which may be worth discussing.  If such an e book did eventually materialise, would it be a bad idea to charge a nominal fee of
Title: Re: FREE British Indian Restaurant E-Book Download?
Post by: Aussie Mick on April 07, 2012, 01:59 PM
If it will be truly free for all to download then i would say go for it, personally i don't have many recipes on here and wouldn't mind them being used. If on the other hand there was any money changing hands i would say no.
I thought this too but then had a further thought which may be worth discussing.  If such an e book did eventually materialise, would it be a bad idea to charge a nominal fee of
Title: Re: FREE British Indian Restaurant E-Book Download?
Post by: Terramamba on April 07, 2012, 02:41 PM
http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/curry/index.php?topic=2984.msg26394#msg26394 (http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/curry/index.php?topic=2984.msg26394#msg26394)

I'm hoping this was the way to donate to the admin of the forum  :)

I love the idea of an ebook, especially it being free!
Title: Re: FREE British Indian Restaurant E-Book Download?
Post by: George on April 07, 2012, 04:24 PM
If it will be truly free for all to download then i would say go for it, personally i don't have many recipes on here and wouldn't mind them being used. If on the other hand there was any money changing hands i would say no.
I thought this too but then had a further thought which may be worth discussing.  If such an e book did eventually materialise, would it be a bad idea to charge a nominal fee of
Title: Re: FREE British Indian Restaurant E-Book Download?
Post by: Stephen Lindsay on April 07, 2012, 05:00 PM
Me too.
Title: Re: FREE British Indian Restaurant E-Book Download?
Post by: Unclebuck on April 07, 2012, 07:05 PM
you will be able to pay for it when its get coped and sold on ebay
Title: Re: FREE British Indian Restaurant E-Book Download?
Post by: Aussie Mick on April 07, 2012, 07:23 PM
you will be able to pay for it when its get coped and sold on ebay

You old skeptic you, unclebuck.

As if................ :)   Anyone who did such a thing would be deemed to be a downright bounder.

Seriously. If CA wants to do this.........PLEASE let him do it.

You will never be able to stop scumbags from trying to earn an illicit dollar, but why should we all suffer. There are LOADS of fantastic recipes on this site, from people who care enough to take the time to share them with us.

If CA is willing to take the (un-paid) time to compile these recipes into some sort of E-book, then, LET IT HAPPEN!!



Title: Re: FREE British Indian Restaurant E-Book Download?
Post by: natterjak on April 07, 2012, 08:06 PM
you will be able to pay for it when its get coped and sold on ebay

You old skeptic you, unclebuck.

As if................ :)   Anyone who did such a thing would be deemed to be a downright bounder.

Seriously. If CA wants to do this.........PLEASE let him do it.

You will never be able to stop scumbags from trying to earn an illicit dollar, but why should we all suffer. There are LOADS of fantastic recipes on this site, from people who care enough to take the time to share them with us.

If CA is willing to take the (un-paid) time to compile these recipes into some sort of E-book, then, LET IT HAPPEN!!

One thing which could help combat this would be to use the watermark feature of acrobat to emboss across the background of each page the URL of CR0. Any potential eBay purchaser would then stand a decent chance of finding their way here and realising they had been fleeced, hopefully prior to leaving eBay feedback (or would that be too zen-like)?
Title: Re: FREE British Indian Restaurant E-Book Download?
Post by: Cory Ander on April 09, 2012, 03:00 PM
I was actually suggesting that I would be (potentially) more than happy to make an "ebook" available as a download (e.g. as a downloadable pdf file), of BIR cooking at home (i.e. my recipes, my take on BIR techniques, etc), on this forum (and/or elsewhere).

Since I would (potentially) be making it available "for free", I would not really care if it was made available elsewhere (e.g on ebay).

Since cr0 already has a mechanism for "donating" (to funds for supporting the forum), I would also not like to see us charge for it (it is a "free" forum, afterall).

Why am I suggesting this?  Simple:


I wasn't really suggesting that we compile a book of cr0 recipes (as has been suggested before - "cough").  Whilst I can see it is a great idea, I can also see that it is fraught with difficulties (some of which have already been cited in this thread). 

Not least of all, all recipes on this forum are automatically assigned copyright to the author of the recipe.  So, besides deciding on which recipes go into a book, we would also need to secure permission of the authors to publish them.  This may/would be problematic since many authors no longer participate on the forum and some authors might object to their recipes being published.  But it might not be an insurmountable problem.
Title: Re: FREE British Indian Restaurant E-Book Download?
Post by: 976bar on April 09, 2012, 03:35 PM
I was actually suggesting that I would be (potentially) more than happy to make an "ebook" available as a download (e.g. as a downloadable pdf file), of BIR cooking at home (i.e. my recipes, my take on BIR techniques, etc), on this forum (and/or elsewhere).

Since I would (potentially) be making it available "for free", I would not really care if it was made available elsewhere (e.g on ebay).

Since cr0 already has a mechanism for "donating" (to funds for supporting the forum), I would also not like to see us charge for it (it is a "free" forum, afterall).

Why am I suggesting this?  Simple:

  • This forum has always been available, to all, for free.
  • I perceive that there are many "newcomers" to the forum that would like honest, concise, and free advice on how to cook BIR curries at home.  And, perhaps, not want to pay for it
  • However, this forum has, it seems to me, become quite preoccupied with discussing "books" (of whatever nature and format) that are only available to those who have paid for them.  These discussions are, therefore, by their nature, in my opinion, totally exclusive to those who have bought those "books".  And, thereby, exclude the majority of our members.  And that irks me

I wasn't really suggesting that we compile a book of cr0 recipes (as has been suggested before - "cough").  Whilst I can see it is a great idea, I can also see that it is fraught with difficulties (some of which have already been cited in this thread). 

Not least of all, all recipes on this forum are automatically assigned copyright to the author of the recipe.  So, besides deciding on which recipes go into a book, we would also need to secure permission of the authors to publish them.  This may/would be problematic since many authors no longer participate on the forum and some authors might object to their recipes being published.  But it might not be an insurmountable problem.

I would like to see your book CA, I think it would go down well with the majority of members and being free would also encourage the newer members.

With this matter about,"copyright" of an author's recipe seems completely ludicrous to me.

Do you ever see the person(s) who created for instance, "Beef Bourgninone" or "Lasagne" or "Chilli Con Carne" or other recipes which are cooked every single day in restaurants around the world suing those people for cooking those recipes?

If someone were to exploit one of my creations and use it in a restaurant I would be absolutely delighted!! :)

I think your idea of a book CA is a great idea :)
Title: Re: FREE British Indian Restaurant E-Book Download?
Post by: ELW on April 09, 2012, 04:58 PM
Hi CA, I think it would be a great idea & great gesture. I've made your base, MP(which I still use) & a few recipe's, all before I really knew how to cook them properly, so I may haver been doing them a misservice at the time. The best thing about a recipe on cr0, is the accompanying posts/faqs, which test the thing to death. I'm not sure what c2g book includes yet, but I would like to see the nuances/techniques explained properly to a newcomer, as in what makes a bir bhuna different than a standard curry?, cooking the garlic further for specific dishes, or less for say pathia etc. That will complete the puzzle for me. Your thoughts on technique would be great.

Regards
ELW
Title: Re: FREE British Indian Restaurant E-Book Download?
Post by: chef888 on April 15, 2012, 06:43 PM
fantastic idea m8 ( ivan)
Title: Re: FREE British Indian Restaurant E-Book Download?
Post by: George on April 16, 2012, 10:06 AM
I think its a superb idea, maybe written along the lines of the best recipes from CR0 mirroring the normal BIR menu i

Like you, I thought CA meant some sort of compilation, rather than just his own recipes.

I still can't see why not. It seems like more and more people are climbing on the band wagon to publish their own eBooks. It's so easy compared to going via a publisher. So if CA wants to join in, then good luck, just as long as it's clearly CA's eBook rather than any kind of official cr0 publication.