Quote from: Peripatetic Phil on March 24, 2019, 10:30 AM

Quote from: jalfreziT on March 24, 2019, 10:20 AM
If you look at government, religious or social policy worldwide, it's mostly about increasing the population.

Not entirely sure that is accurate. 

It's actually a bit difficult for me to defend my statement, without spending the rest of the day copy/pasting exerts of policy from around the world.

But just taking countries close by here in Europe, governments have gone to incredible lengths to get people to breed more. Russia offered draw entry to win prizes of white goods and cars to parents., Hungary offered zero income tax for life to those who had 4 or more kids, Denmark has had TV advertising to encourage Danes to "breed for Denmark", the Nordics offer large child benefits and subsidised day care. The story is similar in Hong Kong, Korea, India, Japan, etc, etc.

I shouldn't have to go in to detail about the religious policies which support increasing population.

Expanding more, much foreign aid is linked to stopping people dying, reducing childhood mortality, reducing diseases, etc. For sure that's a good thing, but at the same time it does increase world population.

Nice reply about Benidorm  ;D

Thinking about another angle, and taking out our own individual choices, I think that future generations are basically screwed anyway. And climate change is only one potential part of that.

If you look at government, religious or social policy worldwide, it's mostly about increasing the population. Either getting people to have more children or making sure the existing population live as long as possible. More people just means more pollution and more drain on limited resources. It's just not going to end well, whether there is climate change or not.

And perversely, increased CO2 levels might be exactly the thing we need in the future, to help increase crop yields to feed all those extra people.

Quote from: Peripatetic Phil on March 24, 2019, 07:56 AM
... and our primary responsibility in my opinion is to do everything in our power to ensure that our actions do not have an adverse impact on the countless other species with which we share this planet.

I agree with you. In fact I'm guessing many/most people, if asked, would agree too.

But the problem is that most people have a deep chasm between their ideology and their actions.

Last year Brits took an average of 1,6 holidays abroad per person. That equates to 106 million holidays abroad, many of them will have been using planes.

Put as a blunt question, how many people are willing to forego their 2 weeks in Benidorm, and instead use the money to insulate their home properly? The statistics say, "not many".

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So much depends on the local humidity level. So advice from others might not always be valid.

E.g. when I make crispy chilli beef in the winter, it is a million times better than in the summer.

Where I live winters are very cold and dry. Summers are warm/hot and humid. It really makes a difference.

I did a bit more research and it seems variations of this same story have been doing the rounds since the 1930s.

The later internet variations change slightly depending on what

It's a great story (who doesn't like to see the bureaucrats have their noses rubbed in it    )

Is it true? I don't think  so.

Quote from: martinvic on February 24, 2019, 01:06 AM
Baseless beliefs?
Fine, I think everyone should forget the overwhelming consensus of the scientific community, that climate change is happening then and take your simple laymans views on it.

Are you referring to the 97%?

Don't sweat it Peshwarinaan     The traffic on the other site is dropping quicker than a highwayman in Tyburn. You're better off here. A friendly bunch, with an adequate sprinkling of obnoxious members to keep it interesting   ;D