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#761
Thanks again for your advice Gary. Im not going to ask any more questions for the time being as I think we are drifting away from the subject of this thread. I will give this technique a try and will let you know how I get on
Regards
Mick ;)
#762
Quote from: parker21 on June 16, 2008, 02:28 PM
hi mick
yes i have tried it. it's a pat chapman technique or it was in one of his books, did not really make any difference! the sweetness is derived from slowly "caramelising" the onions first with lots of oil and a couple of tablespoons of water  and some salt then simmering for about 45mins dependant on number of onions used. oh and carrots in the base.
regards
gary
Hi Gary, have you experimented with the ammount of tomato paste to get a sweeter taste? I would think that too much would be a bit overpowering though. IMO I wouldnt have thought that it was common BIR practice to caramelise onions simply because it takes a long time. I'm only a novice so what do I know???
#763
Quote from: Bobby Bhuna on June 16, 2008, 01:49 PM


Could it not just be the base your smelling with the boiled onion?
Yeah BB you're probably right.I suppose my nose is now better tuned for these things since I've started on the quest
#764
I wet out for a curry friday night in Sutton Coldfield. Is only the second BIR curry that I have had in 18 months!!
There were two things/smells that caught my attention. The first smell was boiled onions, and the second was fried tomato paste! That got me thinking: has anyone tried blanching/ boiling their chopped onions before frying? Next time I cook a curry (friday) I think i will try par boiling the onions and maybe adding a little more tomato paste to my curry
cheers
mick
#765
Thanks for your comments JerryM.
I do intend reclaiming the oil, but rather than reclaim it all in one hit I thought I would reclaim it per portion as I use it!(400ml oil divided by 8 bags = 50ml per portion).I realise that the thin consistancy of the gravy is where it needs to be. I prolonged the simmering process hoping to seperate out more oil, but also to reduce & thicken the gravy. I realise the error of my ways now! I would put money on the fact that nearly all BIRs would reclaim the oil. After all, IMO thats what its all about
#766
I've just finished the Saffron Gravy recipe, and I must say it has produced the best BIR tasting curry for me so far.
Its only the third different base I have tried. The first was Darth Phalls, and the second one I dont recall the author (soz), but it included filling a 7 1/2 litre pot up with onions and infusing the oil overnight with spices and using a mooli root (excellent ingredient). Both have produced brilliant results, but after reading all the interest in the Saffron Gravy recipe; I thought I'd give it a try.
I didnt weigh the onions, but used fourteen medium english onions. I put in slightly more g&g - about two teaspoons. After adding the extra 1 litre of water,I was worried about the soup-like thickness of the sauce and the apparent lack of oil on the surface, so I continued the final vigorous simmering for an hour while I read a few more posts in this thread.
After leaving to cool down slightly, I scraped off the scum and I was amazed by how much oil had risen to the surface. I initially reclaimed the oil, but after further investigation I decided to stir it back in to the gravy and then bagged it up into 8 x 500ml portions. It looked beautiful in the bags- the oil created a lovely marbling effect ;D
I initially reclaimed about 400ml of oil from the 600 ml I started with.
One thing I have noticed from the recipe is that none of the spices are exposed to high cooking temperatures. (It makes me wonder if that is why there is such a tremendous depth of flavour to the finished dish).I then made a mild curry based on Curry Kings Lamb Bhuna Recipe using 2 medium onions, four lamb steaks pre-cooked as per Curry Kings recipe https://curry-recipes.co.uk/curry/index.php?topic=1915.msg16602#msg16602  ,half a green pepper and a chile. I fried the onion, green pepper and chile in 4 tablespoons of reclaimed oil + 4 tablespoons of fresh oil until the onion started to go brown, added 2 tsp fresh garlic + 2 tsp fresh finely chopped ginger 2 tablespoons of tomato puree (ever tasted this stuff? its sooo sweet), 4 tsp Bruce Edwards spice mix, 1 tablespoon salt, but the mix was too dry and started to stick to the bottom of the pan so I quickly added half a cup of water and the let it reduce down a bit. I then added half a ladle of gravy. Wow..... The smell was amazing. I then put a good pinch of coriander and a good pinch of some fresh methi from out of my freezer bag, and then slowly added the rest of the gravy one ladle at a time.I finished it off with 2 fresh tomatoes quartered. In fact it is almost identical to Curry Kings Lamb Bhuna Recipe!!! The curry had so much depth of flavour and the lovely sweet tang that reminded me of one of my old favourite BIR curries - a lamb masalla...well how a masalla used to taste some twenty or so years ago. IMHO they now all seem to have  the same sickly - sweet bland coconut taste...yeeuch.

Thanks for the superb recipe sns :D

mick
#767




i spotted the desiree in ASDA today but alas no Romano - i think i can probably get from my local Asian store - is there much difference though

Very little really
#768
Quote from: JerryM on May 25, 2008, 03:38 PM
matt,

interesting on the side dishes - i suspect your right.

mickdabass,

i spotted the desiree in ASDA today but alas no Romano - i think i can probably get from my local Asian store - is there much difference though


Very little actually
#769
yeah desiree are ok too.Obviously if they are going to be liquidised, then the disintergration bit is probably irrelevent. I just thought I would give you all the benefit of my knowledge of wholesaling potatoes around Brum! ;)
#770
Just to let you know guys Id like to think I am a bit of an authority on potatoes - I grow sell about 3000 Tonnes per year!!! I also supply many Asians around Birmingham, and I can tell you that the potato of choice is a red potato called Romano - especially the small ones or mids as we call them.The reason they prefer them is because they don't start disintergrating when they are boiled for a long time. I personally cant see that the variety is critical, but they all seem to insist on red potatoes! 8)