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#461
Lets Talk Curry / Re: Copyright Issues, pirating
October 22, 2006, 11:26 PM
Listen you crazy person.  If you want to be a pirate captain then learn the trade 8)
Its Keel-hauling and the cat o' nine tails you want, as well as hanging from the yardarm by the thumbs, or failing that make 'em walk the plank (after you have done the rest of course)  ;D  Could do with a yohoho emoticon here now.  Suppose you will calling yourself Darth Blackbeard now :-*

Nighty Nighty
CP (Cap'n Pugwash)
#462
Lets Talk Curry / Copyright Issues, pirating
October 22, 2006, 07:18 PM
I have been made aware that some guests/members are selling recipes from this site, and possible creating books or ebooks (Ebay etc).  It depends on your point of view, but if a recipe is uncredited then it is free to copy but still liable to copyright laws if it is then sold for profit.  Similarly, If someone posts a recipe here which is fully accredited as their creation etc,. then it may not be copied or used for gain without the permission of the author or copyright owner.  I think this should be placed somewhere in the conditions or whatever, just so that pirates know they may be liable for prosecution!  I would hate to see all your hard work be stolen for someone elses profit.  But then I guess the majority wouldn't mind.  What do you think.

CP
#463
I tried but I think I need new batteries ;D
CP
#464
Lets Talk Curry / Re: I Want A Curry And Rice Girl
October 22, 2006, 06:16 PM
Brilliant, just brilliant Ashes.

CP
#465
Doesn't work any more :( :( :( :(

CP
#466
Well you would wouldn't you!  ::)  ;D
#467
Well said

CP
#468
Quote from: George on October 22, 2006, 03:50 PM
Ashes and CP

Thank you for your kind words. Like my view of most of the members here, I have the greatest respect for your valuable inputs. Yes, this is just a friendly debate from my point of view; not an argument at all.

To clarify - everything I've ever read says not to boil stock when you're making it - just simmer it gently. But then chefs seem to cut and run at the end when they boil it like crazy to increase the concentration of flavour of the little bit of liquid that's left.

I think the key difference is that the simmering stage is whilst the meat/veg are in the mix. Next, the (relatively dilute) stock is passed through a sieve to remove as much solid matter as possible. Then, I assume, it does no harm to boil away, to concentrate what's left.

Regards
George



Sorry George, your post came in while I was writing mine up.  So we are talking the same language.  In your second paragraph; if you have been watching TV chefs as I often do (yawn), yes they do cut corners.  But you may be confusing the deglazing or reduction processes with stock making.  Deglazing is usually done with wine or some sort of alcohol, but sometimes clarified stock.  Reduction is that final process to produce the final stock, and this requires boiling  as you quite rightly say.

Voila
CP
#469
Hi George and all.  I was up doing my DIY things (to get some browny points for beers)  and I suddenly realise why we had this conflict (I mean that in a nice debate way).  Lets use chicken stock as an example.  the reason you resist boiling stocks is that if you do they go cloudy and it is very difficult to clear them, which most western chefs demand for their sauces, Jus, Demi Clace etc.  I was taught to put the carcasses in a pan, cover with water, season, put in herbs, onions or whatever is required and bring rapidly to the boil, and then reduce to a minimum heat.  During this time you add more water as required.  Now, at the end of this process, and this is where the mix-up may lie, you remove all the ingredients from the water stock and pass the liquid through muslin, or a fine conical sieve or Chinois Sieve until you get a clear liquid.  Then, if you need to reduce the stock you bring it to the boil until has reduced to your requirements.  I have been chatting to my son who is a long trained professional chef and he agrees.  So George, Ashes et al, none of you are wrong, and I suspect that for curries it doesn't really matter (I don't use stock only Akhni if I need to).  While on Chicken stock, another reason for not boiling in the early stages is because this stock has a tendency to go bitter, I do not know why, I was just taught it.

If you want to make a richer stock and reduce the risk of cloudiness, roast the bones first.  But be aware that this stock can dominate your dish with its flavour.

Hope this clears things up
CP
#470
Nikkidee, I am sure you will find some in the recipes sections.  There are hundreds of variations because it should be a simple dry/stir fry.  Search for Bhuna and follow some of the threads, you should get a feel for which one everbody raves about.  I think you should identify what type, i.e. BIR or Ethnic, and also whether you want one that uses a base or not.

Happy Cooking
CP