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#3211
Hi CurryCanuck,

I understand what you (and others) are saying about "fresh is best" and that you never use pre-prepared garlic or ginger purees.  In many ways I agree....BUT..

....if the goal (here) is to replicate BIR curries, surely the question should rather be (for the purposes of this site, at least) "what do BIRs use and do"?

In this context, I think it is somewhat misleading to suggest that "those BIRs not using fresh ingredients must be considered inferior for taste and customer satisfaction".  Surely, most high-street BIRs are more akin to "fast food" outlets than "haute cuisine"? (or, more akin to a MacDonalds than a high-class restaurant, if you like?).

I remember that a friend of mine (this was in the late eighties) went to a particular well-regarded BIR, week in week out, because she adored their dhansak (which was a humble 3 or 4 quid a pop!).  She thought it was the dog's knobbly bits, until, one night, she walked past their kitchen and noticed empty lentil tins in their rubbish bins.  So, she refused to eat there ever again!  Her decision was based simply on "principle" rather than on taste.  I never did understand her decision.  Presumably, she now dines elsewhere where they will almost certainly be doing similar things.......

My personal endeavour is simply to recreate BIR curries (and "that taste") at home.  To do so, I try to use the ingredients and methods which I believe BIRs use.  For me, this includes the following:

The cheapest possible oil (as well as limited use of ghee)
Bottled curry pastes and commercially prepared curry powders (as well as use of some fresh whole spices)
Commercially ground spices (seldom roasted and ground fresh whole spices)
Bottled garlic and ginger purees (as well as copious amounts of fresh)
Tinned tomatoes, purees and pastes (as well as limited use of fresh)
Tinned lentils (as well as dried)
Bottled and dried mint (seldom, if ever, fresh)
Bottle lemon and lime juices (seldom fresh)
Dried and powdered fenugreek (seldom, if ever, fresh)
Desiccated, tinned and creamed coconut (seldom, if ever, fresh)
Powdered chilli (as well as fresh)
Artificial food colours!

..the list goes on..

Unfortunately (or fortunately....depending on how you look at it) BIR restaurants make many such compromises.  At four quid a pop, most BIRs attempt to achieve an acceptable level of quality at minimum cost.

Surely this is largely why BIR curries taste the way that they do?!
#3212
Here is a montage of my Chicken Madras and Chicken Vindaloo (made to my recipes):

The Chicken Vindaloo is on the bottom right
#3213
My Chicken Madras & Pilau Rice.........

The rice is Darthphall's "Darbari Rice" found here  https://curry-recipes.co.uk/curry/index.php?topic=498.0
#3214
Looks great Layne!  8)

Which recipes did you use for the tikkas and raitha?

Is that one beer each?........or are they both for you?  :P
#3215
Pictures of Your Curries / Re: My First Attempt
October 02, 2006, 06:35 AM
Hi Dai,

If you used powdered food colours, I presume that you dissolved them in a little water before applying them? 

I use liquid food colours for colouring rice (but I use powders for dishes such as tikkas and tandooris).  Although liquid food colours are a little less vibrant than powders, I think they are easier to use and apply when colouring rice. 

I have posted a photo of coloring rice here:  https://curry-recipes.co.uk/curry/index.php?topic=1180.msg10342#msg10342

Keep up the good work!  8)
#3216
Hi CurryChris,

I use "Big L" bottled pureed garlic and ginger.  You can get these in separate jars or as a garlic/ginger blend.  I use the separate jars.  They seem fine to me (but the ginger is more iffy). 

I think that bottled pureed garlic and ginger have a very different smell and taste than fresh garlic and ginger..... no doubt because of the oil, vinegar, salt and (particularly) acidity regulators in them. 

I use both fresh AND bottled pureed garlic and ginger in my curries because I believe the bottled stuff (particularly the garlic....the ginger less so) helps develop that "BIR restaurant taste"..........and I'd be staggered if BIRs use fresh all of the time...... :P

Just expanding on Darth's suggestion....maybe try freezing the fresh pureed garlic and ginger in an ice-cube container.  Once frozen, transfer the cubes to a sealable plastic bag.  This way, they will be available in handy curry-sized chunks......."one lump or two!"  :P

Coriander can also be frozen this way (but it is nowhere near as good as fresh).

Personally, I simply peel fresh garlic and ginger and whiz it into a fine puree in an electric blender (adding a little oil, if necessary).

Hope this helps  :)

 
#3217
Quote from: Chilli Prawn on October 01, 2006, 11:14 AM
I often Nuke my papads CC, but not the poppadums

Sorry CP, but I'm confused.....aren't papadoms and papads one and the same thing?  If not, how do they differ?

I think the best method of cooking papadoms is to fry them in very hot oil.....microwaving them is an inferior (but, no doubt, healthier) option in my humble opinion.   :)
#3218
Pictures of Your Curries / Re: My Chicken Tikka
October 01, 2006, 05:44 AM
Here is a montage of my Chicken Tikka at various stages of preparation:


  • Top Left:  Preparation of the "sizzler" (with onion, ghee and lemon juice added)
  • Top Right:  "Sizzling" of pre-cooked Chicken Tikka
  • Bottom Right:  Chicken Tikka served on a "sizzler"
  • Bottom Right:  Chicken Tikka......ready to eat!
#3219
Pictures of Your Curries / CA's Chicken Tikka
October 01, 2006, 05:34 AM
My Chicken Tikka (made to the recipe here:  https://curry-recipes.co.uk/curry/index.php?topic=1555.msg13736#msg13736).  The chicken breasts were marinated overnight, placed on skewers and cooked on the barbecue..............
#3220
Pictures of Your Curries / CA's Starters & Side Dishes
September 29, 2006, 12:17 PM
Here is a montage of some of my starters and side dishes: