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#321
There's a Sharif and sons shop near me
Radford Road, Nottingham
It looks just like your pictures
maybe it's a chain of shops
It's really good, isn't it?
Everything you could possibly want, in whatever size you need, at a really good price

Actually it's more the fresh fruit and veg that appeals to me
They have amazing varieties of chillies
and boxes of Pakistani Mangoes for ?3.50 (or three for a tenner)
3 bunches of coriander or spinach for ?1.20
Onions are so cheap too, 20kg for ?3
Ginger and fresh garlic for next to nothing
I could go on & on
These places have been my favourites for thirty years
I'd feel lost without them
#322
Lets Talk Curry / Re: Curry sandwich for work
June 27, 2012, 06:45 PM
An Asian Sweet shop, near me, makes deep fried, battered curry sandwiches
The batter is made from spiced gram flour
The same used for pakora and onion bhajee
I don't know what else is in them, but these sandwiches are fantastic!!
#323
 I cooked, using the base, yesterday
The aroma is much improved, but I think I could do better
I have lot's of frozen gravy, I'll try another day
Too oily

The aroma of the heated base is really excellent though
I look forward to Aussie Mick's big base result
#324
Curry Base Chat / Re: BIG Base
June 19, 2012, 06:54 PM
Hi Mick
Why don't you try Curry Barking Mad's little india recipe?
That's a full sized base and there's video, to show how to do it
That way you won't have to scale up a recipe
#325
Well, I did the extra simmer of the gravy
I went a couple of hours later, to freeze some gravy, but it was far too hot still
That's something I failed to report
When you make a base of this size, it really retains the temperature
Without my BIR hob I don't know how long it would have taken to boil, either
On a convential gas ring, perhaps an hour

Anyhow I left the base until today for freezing, so that was another 24 hours maturing
What an incredible difference!
I don't know if it was the extra time, or the reboil, or both
It was particularly noticable with it's aroma

I was really excited and heated some base up in a pan
It's not my idea of perfect, but really really close
The spice flavour has moved way back, the tomatoey flavour more to the front and a sort of sour & slightly spicey aroma
I can't cook with this until next weekend, but can't wait to try
I believe again
#326
Quote from: Whandsy on June 17, 2012, 04:58 PM
it may have been worth leaving it to simmer (keep warm) on a very low light for 3 or 4 hours.
W
Thanks, I will do this
The gravy does seem to have improved with a day in the pot
It has a better aroma now
Perhaps it's not quite the failure I thought
I'll give a long simmer, before freezing anything
Here it is
It's over a sink full!
Re: Making a Full Sized Base at Home
#327
Quote from: Cory Ander on June 17, 2012, 11:34 AM
Where do you think that leaves you now?
I have heard many times before, that you can't downscale recipes
But I now know, that it makes little (if any) difference
I reckon I will keep to an eight onion base
Whatever the difference between home made, and BIR made curries is, it's not down to the size.
It has to be ingredients or technique
Like JerryM I still think there is something different to the oil used at BIRs
My base lacked a roundness of taste

Perhaps the length of time you cook the onions is critical

This testing goes on forever doesn't it?
Well, what ever happens, I can still make cracking curries
Quote from: Aussie Mick on June 17, 2012, 03:10 PM
So, the big question is, if I did 10x everything on CA or Chewy base, would I have 10 times the amount of normal base, or would it not work out? ???
If you try this, that will be a thread worth following
Quote from: curryhell on June 17, 2012, 10:24 AM
I would have kept the poppadums in a large tuperware container.  They keep for ages providing it's airtight :D
Thanks CH
I don't have tuperware, but I have Asda carrier bags, pegged shut, which are full of poppadoms
And I actually think we will get throught them by Monday
Perhaps on Tuesday, I'll be going through the wheely bin for the smashed ones!!
#328
Full Size Curry Gravy

There were no excuses left, but plenty of unproved theories
Years of failure, finally required some ghosts, to be laid to rest

I have a really large stainless steel cook pot
I begged it, off a chef, a few years ago
It cost nothing
One handle is loose, so it can?t be lifted when hot and full, and there is no lid
I have to use a lid, from a wok

I have a second hand BIR gas hob

What held me back for years, was the fear of cooking a curry gravy to a wrong recipe
I didn?t want that level of wastage, without justification

Last year I got into the kitchens, of a local Indian Restaurant kitchen
I was shown twice, in detail, how they make the Curry Gravy
I also saw various stages of the gravy, being cooked, on several other occasions
One thing became clear, the only random element, is the oil used
Sometimes this would be the oil from the chip fryer
Sometimes the oil from cooking poppadoms
Sometimes from oil from cooking poppadoms first and then onion bhajees
I never saw fresh used

Although this experiment is clearly excessive, it was fairly cheap too
Two 4 kg bags of onions cost ?1.98, Poppadoms ?7.60, Oil  ?2, pepper, carrots, chick peas & tomatoes about ?3
So ?15 to prove, or disprove a point
And hopefully some first class curries with gravy to freeze

I began, on Friday evening


I roughly chopped 8kg of onions to nearly fill the large saucepan
I added 2 carrots, 1 green pepper, 1 400g can of chick peas, 2 400g cans of tomatoes & enough water to bring the level to half way up the pot

The pot was brought  to the boil then simmered covered for two hours
(using my antique Ken Hom wok lid)

Meanwhile, I heat 1 ? litres of ktc veg oil, in Ken?s large wok
I cooked 60 poppadoms

Yes, this is where you start questioning how far, you can go.

I saved 20, the rest were crunched & binned
After 30 poppadoms, were cooked, the oil seemed to lose it?s heat
It required turning the gas up, to increase it?s temperature
I had planned to cook the whole pack of 100
But the oil was clearly getting past it?s best

After the oil had cooled, I poured the oil into a pyrex jug
There was only a litre left
The aroma was (unsurprisingly) poppadoms and it was very cloudy

I waited until the next day to continue the recipe, because that?s what the restaurant did
So bright and breezy, on Saturday morning, I continued
I reheated the pot of onions and simmered for another hour
Then I added 1 chef spoon of turmeric & 1 ? chef spoons of salt.
I simmered it another ten minutes, then blended
Now, that was a job and a half!
It took about ten minutes to get to a fine consistency

I heated the litre of poppadom oil and added 3 chef spoons of garlic ginger puree, 400g of tomato puree and gently folded the purees together in the pan, as it rose to a simmer
After five minutes I added 3 chef spoons of spice mixture (coriander,cumin,paprika,madras powder,turmeric)
After a couple of minutes the spices stopped fizzing and I added the oil into the pureed onion pot.
I stirred everything really well, for a couple of minutes

The recipe was nearly complete
All that was needed was to simmer the pot until the oil separated again.
This took another hour and red oil, rose to the top, of the gravy

At the end of cooking the gravy really looked the part, but didn?t smell right
Maybe I had been overexposed to spices
I honestly don?t know

Anyhow, a couple of hours later I used some, to cook a recipe shown me by the author of this gravy

Tarka Dhall
I heated some fresh oil (in my BIR pan) and added 1 ? chef spoons of precooked lentils (They are simply boiled with a little turmeric)
Stir this all round for a couple of minutes, until the mixture dries out
Then I added 1 desertspoon of spice mixture, 1 teaspoon fenugreek leaves and ? teaspoon of salt
Stir this round the pan for a couple of minutes, scraping the pan
It does stick!
Add 2 ladles of curry gravy and simmer/reduce for five minutes.
In another pan, on a low heat, I added a little oil
Into this I put 3 sliced cloves of garlic and a desertspoon of chopped fresh coriander.
I stir fried this for about three minutes, so the garlic was just turning brown at the edges
It?s not wanted dark brown, and is easily burnt!
At this stage I poured the garlic oil, over the lentils
Tarka Dhall ready!

The curry was good
Probably as good as ones I had bought from the restaurant
My wife loved it
But in no way had I made any quantum leap, with my cooking
No extra fantastic flavor appeared
I would conclude that , cooking in quantity, doesn?t affect the gravy outcome
I would also conclude that my wheely bin stinks of crushed poppadoms and old onion skins

I shall freeze a couple of litres of gravy, and who knows, when I thaw it out, the curry fairies may have worked their magic







#330
Quote from: gazman1976 on June 02, 2012, 07:14 PM
Pakora Sauce
Ingredients
?250ml Natural Yoghurt
?salt to taste
?5g red chilli powder
?15g ready-made mint sauce
?100g tomato ketchup
Normally, I guess what the ? mean
This time I'm lost
Sorry, Gary would you fill the blanks?