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#291
ITN - Thursday, July 10 04:09 pm

A row has broken out between rival restaurateurs who claim to have created the world's hottest curry.

Chefs at London's Cinnamon Club created the Bollywood Burner - a dish so spicy diners are required to sign a disclaimer before eating it.

Made with lethal "Naga" chillies, the lamb-based burner has been submitted to the Guinness Book of Records in a bid to have it officially declared the world's hottest curry.

But Rukon Latif, owner of the Rupali Restaurant in Newcastle, has vowed to fight fire with fire by making his Curry Hell dish even stronger.

The blistering balti was created by his late father Abdul Latif Lord of Harpole, when he opened the Rupali in 1977.

Mr Latif would give Curry Hell free to anyone who could finish a plateful.

Diners who have dared the Curry Hell challenge have included Gazza and "Jackass" daredevil Steve-O.

"How dare they claim the Bollywood burner is hotter than Curry Hell?" said Rukon Latif, 24.

"Dad would be turning in his grave. We've been serving up Curry Hell for years now and it's one of our most popular dishes.

"But we've been thinking of ways to make it stronger - we are experimenting with using Mexican chillies rather than the crushed Indian bird's eye chillies we use traditionally.

"The heat does not come from the chillies alone. There's a secret ingredient too which gives it its kick."

The Rupali already holds a world record for the longest takeaway curry delivery - from Newcastle to Sydney, Australia.

#292
Lets Talk Curry / Re: bruce edwards
July 10, 2008, 01:52 PM
The Article submitted by Bruce Edwards can be viewed at the following link

Bruce Edwards Curry Sauce & Basic Curry - From The Man Himself
#293
As you know I have been in discussion with Bruce Edwards and he has kindly provided CR0.co.uk with an article on the restaurant Curry Sauce and Basic Curry.  So here it is.......

Bruce Edwards
I discovered this forum about a year after it first came online, and have visited it from time to time since then. Initially progress seemed slow, then people started reporting on kitchen demos, and things started to get interesting. Very soon there was some good information, but also a lot that wasn't helpful, and some - well I wont say any more. The difficulty for many people was just what to believe Common problems are that when someone sees for the first time what goes on in a restaurant kitchen they're are in an unfamiliar environment, their observations are often unreliable and they often misinterpret what they have seen. They might see a pan on the cooker on a burner that resembles a rocket engine and so conclude that a high temperature and lots of heat are necessary, but they fail to notice that the contents of the pan are only simmering, because it is a small pan and most of the heat is going up the side. The chef then takes the opportunity to impress the visitor by producing a sheet of flame with a flick of his spoon and a shake of the pan, and the impression is reinforced.

Another example is quantities; the visitor sees a massive pot of sauce on the cooker and asks how much coriander/turmeric/cumin etc. he needs in his pot which is 'this' big. The chef, trying to be helpful, makes a guess. Now think about it. If your pot is 6 inches in diameter and the same in depth, and the restaurant one is three times this, [distinctly possible] then the restaurant one actually contains TWENTY SEVEN times the volume of yours, as simple   arithmetic will show, but a fact that might easily be overlooked.
People look for recipes with a definite result in mind. And while recipes are obviously important and have a part to play, what BIR cooking is really all about is using Traditional Indian methods and spices to cook dishes that are not typically 'Indian'.

When everything is right, the Restaurant Flavour/Smell is produced, almost as a by-product of the process as a whole. Of course the chef will have heard of this, but probably wont be too clear about what we actually mean by it. He will almost certainly assume that we are talking about general spiciness. Only a true British Curry Enthusiast can fully appreciate it.

Method and technique are everything. Master these and you will be able to produce restaurant style dishes from a whole range of ingredients. The bad news - for some ? is that the best starting point is an understanding of Traditional Indian Cookery. You need to be familiar with spices, know how to cook with them, know what dishes look like at various stages, and how to
achieve this. Daunting, maybe, but hopefully I can demystify it a little.

I'm going to try to explain what is actually happening rather than just giving recipes and instructions.
What I am presenting here is a fairly standard Curry Sauce, but to try and make it as repeatable and failsafe as possible, I am giving some precise quantities and instructions. I can't, of course, guarantee success for you, but I can tell you with confidence that it does work, and when everything is right, it can produce the sort of spectacular result that we are probably all familiar with.

If you follow these instructions, the result should be a dish that is robustly spiced and well seasoned, [Typical of the sort of dish that restaurants produced through the 1980's and into the '90's] that you stand a good chance of enjoying even after having been exposed to the cooking smells. And of course, once you are happy with it, you can always reduce the spicing to a level typical of what the average restaurant uses now. More on that later.


1]    

  • ONIONS.  3 Lb. prepared weight. [Peeled] Chop finely.
  • CARROTS. 4 Oz. prepared weight. Chop.
  • RED orGREEN PEPPER 3 Oz. Chop.
  • CORIANDER. 1 Oz. Chop.
  • GARLIC and GINGER. 1 Oz. of each. Prepared weight. Blend finely with some of the water.
  • TOMATO. 2 Rounded Tbsp. tinned chopped or 2 Med. fresh.
  • AJOWAN. 1 Quarter Tsp. Optional.
  • SALT. 1.5 Tsp.
  • OIL. 6 Fl. Oz.
  • WATER. 2.5 Pints
   
2]    

  • SPICE MIXTURE. 4.5 level Tbsp.
  • TOMATO PUREE.  1 Rounded Tbsp.
   

NOTES.
ONIONS. The quantity specified will give a fairly thick sauce [Recommended] but if you prefer you could reduce the amount to 2.5 Lbs.

GARLIC AND GINGER. These should always be blended if they are going to be boiled. If they are just chopped, the flavour will cook out. Sounds unlikely, I know, but there is a good [ in terms of chemistry ] explanation for this.

AJOWAN. Only a small amount needed. Unfortunately, far too much was specified in Curry House Cookery.

SPICE MIXTURE. Coriander / Turmeric / Cumin / Curry Powder 8:7:5:4 parts by volume. When I say level spoons, that's what I mean, so use the back of a knife to be sure that it is level.

OTHER INGREDIENTS. May be added, but aren't really needed. Restaurants typically do this to individualise their dishes. A segment of lemon or a stick of celery will make a noticable difference but care is needed as inconsistencies are easily introduced. Onions are bad enough, varying in strength and sugar content, without carelessly adding other variables.

This sauce replaces the one described in the second series of Curry House Cookery. As it is quite well flavoured, it works well with plain cooked meat or chicken. It will produce a perfectly acceptable curry with supermarket bought cooked chicken. If, however, you want to seriously reduce the spicing, then consider pre-cooking the main ingredient with some whole spices.

METHOD.
Put all the ingredients except the spice mixture and tomato puree in a suitable pot. Make a note of the level of the water - the evaporation loss will be made up later.  Put it on the cooker and bring to the boil. Cover and simmer on the lowest possible heat for ONE HOUR.  It should be ONLY JUST bubbling. Five minutes before the end of cooking time, add the spice mix and tomato puree and return to the boil. When time is up, turn off heat and leave to stand for a
minute or two, then stand the pot in cold water to cool.

I always make curry sauce in late afternoon, and when I reach this point, I refrigerate it, then blend it the next morning. So you can follow exactly if you want, or fit it into your own schedule.  But I think it is probably best if you at least allow it to cool fully before blending.  When you are ready, top up the water to its' original level. Then blend until really smooth, and return to the fridge.

It is my opinion [but not proven] that curry sauce is at its' best on the third day after cooking. 
I normally make two pots per week ; the first on Monday for use on Wednesday / Thursday and often Friday as well. The second is made on Wednesday for a special meal with trimmings on Saturday. I don't normally freeze any - I think curries are far too important to use anything other than the best whenever possible. Okay, so it dosen't all get used, what's left gets fed to our chickens. At least it's not completely wasted.

PREPARING IT FOR USE.
It's a good idea to remove it from the fridge and allow to reach room temperature before re-heating.  If you wont be needing it all, transfer enough plus a little extra to another pot, then leave it to stand for an hour or two. Heat it over a medium flame until boiling, stirring often to stop it separating. Allow it to boil for a minute or so, then turn off the heat. 
It is now ready for use, but don't expect it to look the way it does in a restaurant kitchen.  There simply isn't sufficient volume of sauce here to produce the classic oil slick. You could force the issue by adding extra oil, but that would be for appearance only, it isn't necessary, and may even be counter productive ? the additional oil would take on flavour from the sauce, which would then be drained off. It is true that chefs will use oil from the pot to cook some dishes in, but that's because it is there. It will make a difference to some bland dishes, but is not necessary for the restaurant flavour. 

AND NOW THE CURRY.
In the unlikely event that you are doing this for the first time, then before you start actually cooking, be sure that you know exactly what you have to do. There is a point of no return, and you simply can't stop to check the instructions.  This is a basic restaurant curry so most of it will be familiar, but it is my intention that you get it RIGHT.

   

  • OIL. 1 Fl. oz.
  • THINLY SLICED PEPPER OR ONION. A few slivers.
  • TOMATO PUREE. 1 LEVEL tsp.
  • SPICE MIXTURE. 0.5 Tsp.
  • CHILLI POWDER. As required. 1 LEVEL tbsp. For fairly serious Vindaloo.
  • DRIED FENUGREEK LEAVES.   1 small pinch.
  • SALT. 2 pinches.
  • COOKED MEAT OR CHICKEN. 1 portion / as required.
  • CORIANDER LEAVES. Chopped / as required.
.

NOTES.
THINLY SLICED PEPPER OR ONION. As in Curry House Cookery, this is not
actually required ? its' purpose is to enable you to judge the temperature of the oil before adding the spices. This must be high enough to cook them, but not so high that they burn. Apart from that, it is not critical.
Hopefully, you have a 1 Oz. cooks' spoon and a 7 Oz. ladle. If not, I thoroughly recommend that you get them, as they really are the best tools for the job. Make sure that you know what your ladle looks like when it is half full, as this is a useful measure and reduces guesswork.

METHOD
Put the oil, tomato puree and pepper / onion in a pan and on the heat.
When the contents of the pan are frying briskly, add the spices, and mix well with the oil. You can give the pan a good shake, stir with the spoon, or a combination of the two, it dosen't matter, as long as everything is well mixed.
The spices will fizzle and foam - this shows they are cooking properly.
The hotter the oil, the more they will foam and the quicker they will cook. [ Forget about smoking hot oil - yes it will work, but timing is crucial.] After a while, the sizzling will start to die down.  This indicates that the spices are cooked, and the process must be stopped NOW, but ideally just before this point. With practice, it is not difficult to judge the right moment.
[While all of this is going on, anyone downwind of your kitchen will be getting the full benefit of the Indian Restaurant Smell. What a shame that this is wasted on those in the kitchen.]

It is now time to add a ladleful of sauce. This reduces the temperature in the pan and stops the spices from cooking any more. [ And also from burning. ] But beware ; it is possible for the spices to carry on cooking in a bubble underneath the sauce. So make sure that this dosen't happen by stirring, swirling and generally mixing well. Allow the curry to simmer for a few minutes on a medium heat.  When the oil separates and floats on the surface, you can spoon off the excess and add the rest of the sauce along with the main ingredient. [ Which can be pre-heated by microwaving.] Carry on simmering until the oil again separates and the sauce turns a little darker in colour. If you want a thicker curry, allow to simmer for a little longer. Exact times can't be given ; it is really a matter of of waiting until it looks right. When you are happy with the result, add chopped coriander leaves and serve, or place on a serving dish.

SO THERE YOU HAVE IT. The only tricky part is the frying of the spices, but a little practice should make that second nature. Interestingly, it appears that some chefs are reluctant to fry chilli powder in any quantity [Phall or at least Vindaloo heat] because of the fumes given off. This is unfortunate, because it seems to be under-cooked chilli that is responsible for the next day effects often associated with hot currys. [FINDALOO syndrome.] I regularly eat currys
containing six or more tablespoons of chilli powder which is well fried, and never seem to suffer from this.

Now its' up to you you to try what I have described - I hope it works for you. Post your results and experiences, and I will keep an eye on how things are going. I hope to add to this, probably later this summer or early in the autumn, and I will try to help with any problems that occur. But if you alter the method beyond all recognition before you even try it, then tell me that it dosen't work, don't expect too much sympathy!

VARIATIONS.
In my part of the world [I don't know what's happening further afield, I don't do much travelling around these days.] restaurants are producing food that is minimally spiced and often low salt. The low salt option seems to be taking blandness to a bit of an extreme, but minimal spicing can result in some interesting dishes, although the restaurant flavour/smell is missing. If you want to try this, try halving the quantity of spice mixture, garlic/ginger and coriander in the sauce. You could actually reduce the spice mixture to about a third of the amount specified and still produce very acceptable currys. The spicing of the actual curry could also be halved, and you would still have something typical of many restaurants, although obviously this is not for everyone, and I suspect not for most users of this forum. I have made perfectly satisfactory hot currys by using nothing but turmeric [ around 1.5 tsp ] to spice the sauce, relying on the flavour of a fairly large amount of chilli powder for the end result. Flavours such as coriander leaves then seem to come through very well. These, though, are purely experimental currys, but they may appeal to some.

BRUCE EDWARDS.
NORTH NORFOLK.
29th. JUNE. 2008.


Copyright Bruce Edwards
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#294
It looks a bit congealed, which i find happens with nonstick surfaces...is the pan non stick?

I have moved up to using stainless steel saucepans with the lid on to keep the moisture and cooking on full heat stirring now and again.
I find this stop the viscosity and keeps the base more fluid like...which i find is more like a madras.

Id be interested to know if its a nonstick pan?

Stew
#295
BB,

Did you use a Wok to cook that?

Stew
#296
Hi Tamala,

Unfortunatly the rice is my downfall and has been neglected, i really need to start working on it and try the Pilau Rice recipes on this site.

Stew
#297
I left out Kashmiri Mirch from the base altogether and added half a teaspoon of Deggi Mirch instead.
This to me does not make much difference in the base as the amount used is small compared to the quantity of base you get at the end.

This base is a great building block and has helped me achieve the best madras i have made so far in 4 years. :o
Can you beleive this is the first time i have ever used Rajah Madras Powder, i have never been able to get it before...i wont be going back to any other curry powder.

Cool
Stew
#298
My Pics of this recipe using the base shown in the thread above.

Cooked on a high heat probably for 10 mins in total.  I used a lid this time to help stop the splattering from the curry sauce.  This also helped me achieve the madras consisteny as the water does not evaporate easily.

This is 100% BIR Madras.
My only tip is you must must use Rajah Madras Powder in the spice mix and Deggi Mirch.  The Deggi Mirch is really spicy and deep red which gives the madras its distinctive colour...i am 100% sure this is now what is used in a Takeaway.  I always wondered how they get that immediate spicy heat...well here is it...Deggi Mirch.

#299
Hi,

I use this Deggi Mirch http://www.theasiancookshop.co.uk/deggi-mirch-kashmiri-red-chilli-powder-blend-100g-by-mdh-859-p.asp

I used SnS base as per this thread.
The only change was too add Rajah Madras Curry Powder into the spice mix and deggi mirch instead of chili powder (1 Tea Spoon).

Plus don't forget coriander stalks and chopped leaves.
I am satisfied that this is the closest i have ever got to a real takeaway madras.

Well done SnS.
I saved some and tasted it cold....amazing

S
#300
Decided to go for the prawn madras tonight using this base.
Once again cooked on a high heat probably for 10 mins in total.  I used a lid this time to help stop the splattering from the curry sauce.  This also helped me achieve the madras consisteny as the water does not evaporate easily.

This is 100% BIR Madras.
My only tip is you must must use Rajah Madras Powder in the spice mix and Deggi Mirch.  The Deggi Mirch is really spicy and deep red which gives the madras its distinctive colour...i am 100% sure this is now what is used in a Takeaway.  I always wondered how they get that immediate spicy heat...well here is it...Deggi Mirch.

Hope you like the pics.