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#281


Quote from: martinvic on February 26, 2012, 02:55 PM
Hi Noble ox

Thanks for your advice (and everyone elses), appreciated.
I've planted some seeds from my frozen chillis, and I've also ordered some from the ebay seller I mentioned too.

In the end I ordered -

THAI HOT CULINARY - 60 SEEDS
A compact variety ideal for containers producing plants with attractive upright clusters of slender 3? long, hot, intensely flavoured fruits.  Best grown under glass, but can be moved outside to a very warm sheltered location during a good summer.

FRESNO - 100 FINEST SEEDS
One of the best known varieties sold whole in shops, with a mild/hot flavour producing heavy crops of  3" long conical fruits which can be used green or when ripening to red. The plant has green stems, dark green leaves, and white flowers growing to 30?. Disease Resistant: Tobacco Mosiac.

POINSETTIA - 60 FINEST SEEDS
A stunning very ornamental edible pepper named due to its similarity to the popular Xmas plant.  The 3? long ?? long hot hooked fruits ripen to an attractive red and are born in great abundance and top the plant as they grow upwards in large clumps. Ideally suited for container and indoor cultivation growing to a maximum of 24?. Matures 90+ days from germination.

SANTA FE GRANDE - 100 SEEDS
Hot conical blunt-tipped waxed fruits, 1?" wide by 3?" long with medium thick walls are produced on sturdy 24" tall plants.  Continuous heavy yields.   Ripens from yellow to orange to red. 75-80 days from transplant.

Not too bad for ?4.55 posted.

Now I've got to clear out some space, to grow them indoors, and find somewhere to put the pots of them in the garden in the summer.



Oh and, Tom feed is fine to feed them at flowering stage isn't it?

Cheers
Martin

Hi Martin
Yes feed as tomatoes and enjoy watching them grow
When I have too many even after freezing I cut the stem ends off leaving the seeds inside then sink them in distilled vinegar in jars and eat them through the wintertime 
#282
Why am I struggling getting through to some of you :o
My last effort :o
F1 seeds are Hybrids and will not reproduce viable seeds but will germinate like all seeds
Look in a seed shop or garden centre at the seeds some seeds will have F1 on the tops they will give the result of same parents but the seeds collected will be sterile( like jaffa or mules) after that any more doubts google it
Some of these hybrids are used commercially for chillies etc the seeds are useless when you harvest your own
Quite right about seeds floating or not some seeds are duds

#283
Quote from: Salvador Dhali on February 25, 2012, 07:30 PM
Quote from: noble ox on February 25, 2012, 07:08 PM
Quote from: Salvador Dhali on February 25, 2012, 02:28 PM
Quote from: Whandsy on February 25, 2012, 02:09 PM
Quote from: 976bar on February 24, 2012, 11:43 PM
Hi Martin,

What is this myth about drying out seeds in the airing cupboard? Just put them in some paper towel in a bowl and put them on the window ledge.

I don't even bother drying mine out, I just remove them sometimes from the chilli and pop them straight into the compost :)

Hi 976bar

Is this method of cutting chillis open and planting a certainty, i'm up for cutting one of my finger chillis open but as it takes 2-3 weeks to appear I'll be gutted if nothing happpens :-\

W

While nothing is a certainty in this game, I do it all the time with all sorts of seeds gifted from produce I've bought, and can confirm that it does work. And on the occasions when it doesn't, it hasn't cost you anything other than around a week of time waiting to see if they sprout. (I'd recommend planting 3 seeds per pot to give yourself the best chance. You can always thin out if they all sprout.)

Nature is a wonderful thing. In 2010, for instance, I chucked some rotting supermarket tomatoes into my compost bin, and in 2011 worked the compost into my raised beds. A few weeks later what I thought were strange-looking weeds started appearing everywhere, and as it transpired their distinct tomato plant appearance was entirely due to the fact that they were, in fact, tomato plants, which had sprouted from those rotting supermarket tomatoes. I let a handful of them do their own thing, and they turned out really well.

Previously I'd gone to all the trouble of scooping tomato seeds out of the flesh, painstakingly separating them and placing them carefully on blotting paper to dry out.

Now I don't bother - just scoop a few out with a teaspoon and whack them in some compost and let them get on with it.

Give it a go!

Cheers

Gary


Hi Gary
Yes its very rewarding harvesting seeds from bought produce, often they will all germinate the problem is with the fruiting, very frustating after waiting 8 months and no chillies.The way to avoid this is to buy a packet of seeds named but not a hybrid then save and use them every year
I have been using tobasco seeds from 1 packet for some 25 years no problems
hope this is of some use

Top advice indeed (and it sounds like you and I have been doing this for about the same length of time).

I've been pretty lucky to date with fruiting (more luck than judgement), but as you say you can't be certain which produce has had the Monsanto touch, so best to be on the safe side - especially when starting out.

If you've got room, I guess a safe way to proceed would to be to plant some bought seeds to be assured of a crop, but also a few taken from fresh or dried chillies to grow alongside to see how they get on. If they work, then harvest the seed for next year.

I've just loaded the propagator with some finger chilli seeds from a few chillies I begged from my local restaurant, along with some Kashmiri, habanero, cherry bomb, jalapeno, poblano, lada api (a chilli from Borneo I've not tried before) and a few others.

Now the wait....

I agree with all you say there start easy then experiment :)

It is the same with tomatoes If you choose seeds  for flavour there are some excellent varieties compared with the commercial tasteless objects.
#284
Quote from: Salvador Dhali on February 25, 2012, 02:28 PM
Quote from: Whandsy on February 25, 2012, 02:09 PM
Quote from: 976bar on February 24, 2012, 11:43 PM
Hi Martin,

What is this myth about drying out seeds in the airing cupboard? Just put them in some paper towel in a bowl and put them on the window ledge.

I don't even bother drying mine out, I just remove them sometimes from the chilli and pop them straight into the compost :)

Hi 976bar

Is this method of cutting chillis open and planting a certainty, i'm up for cutting one of my finger chillis open but as it takes 2-3 weeks to appear I'll be gutted if nothing happpens :-\

W

While nothing is a certainty in this game, I do it all the time with all sorts of seeds gifted from produce I've bought, and can confirm that it does work. And on the occasions when it doesn't, it hasn't cost you anything other than around a week of time waiting to see if they sprout. (I'd recommend planting 3 seeds per pot to give yourself the best chance. You can always thin out if they all sprout.)

Nature is a wonderful thing. In 2010, for instance, I chucked some rotting supermarket tomatoes into my compost bin, and in 2011 worked the compost into my raised beds. A few weeks later what I thought were strange-looking weeds started appearing everywhere, and as it transpired their distinct tomato plant appearance was entirely due to the fact that they were, in fact, tomato plants, which had sprouted from those rotting supermarket tomatoes. I let a handful of them do their own thing, and they turned out really well.

Previously I'd gone to all the trouble of scooping tomato seeds out of the flesh, painstakingly separating them and placing them carefully on blotting paper to dry out.

Now I don't bother - just scoop a few out with a teaspoon and whack them in some compost and let them get on with it.

Give it a go!

Cheers

Gary


Hi Gary
Yes its very rewarding harvesting seeds from bought produce, often they will all germinate the problem is with the fruiting, very frustating after waiting 8 months and no chillies.The way to avoid this is to buy a packet of seeds named but not a hybrid then save and use them every year
I have been using tobasco seeds from 1 packet for some 25 years no problems
hope this is of some use
#285
Quote from: Les on February 25, 2012, 12:09 PM
Quote from: noble ox on February 25, 2012, 11:54 AM
The idea of my post was to give tips for better" husbandry" not a point for debating. there are all sorts of methods which can work................time has dictated my tips from actual growing experiences over a long time and learning the hard way
I hope some of you are grateful for good advice

Don't go getting your panties in a bunch there friend,
Everyone has there own opinion on things, And It's all about what works for them ;D


Hi Les
Its not a case of opinions when it comes to scientific facts re growing things
Lots of things work but to me its a case of the best ways for better results and passing them on
Les
#286
Quote from: 976bar on February 24, 2012, 04:48 PM
I never buy seeds, I just use the seeds from Chillis I have bought and dry them out, and I have never had any problem growing them in the last 5 years except from last year when I sowed them way too late!! :)

Keep them warm and dry, don't expose them to frost, and don't over water them, I have often used tap water when rain water hasn't been abundent and they still grow fine. I guess I am particularly lucky to have a southern facing back garden which is a bit of suntrap :)

The idea of my post was to give tips for better" husbandry" not a point for debating. there are all sorts of methods which can work................time has dictated my tips from actual growing experiences over a long time and learning the hard way
I hope some of you are grateful for good advice
#287
Hi All :)
I have grown Chillies for 30 odd years so here are some basic tips
When you transplant make sure that the new pot is not too big as this will encourage extra leaf growth
When you water use rainwater only
Make sure that the water temp is the same as the plant they can go into shock easily 1 of the causes of blossom drop
Over watering will cause blossom drop as well
Keep them outside as much as you can for better pollination
Sometimes you can be lucky harvesting seeds from bought  Chillies the only problem is they can be Hybrids and will not fruit.if you buy seeds make sure there not F1 hybrids then the seeds can be used every year
The seed companies want you to buy every year so ignore all the hype about F1 seeds
I hope this is of some use to some of you
#288
Brilliant :D
#289
Lets Talk Curry / Rice knowhow?
February 22, 2012, 10:46 AM
Hi :)
Anyone in the know as to how rice is dealt with in BIRS and T/A,s ?
It arrives in a ali container which can not be used in a microwave
So it must be precooked then stored, but how is it heated and treated? This has always been a mystery to me
Any ideas?
#290
Lets Talk Curry / Re: Cooking Lessons with Az
February 20, 2012, 07:32 PM
I have been reading this thread with some interest and am now wondering if it is a huge "wind up" :)
Some good BIR chefs and home enthusiasts have given lots of good info on this forum .then suddenly 5 go to a BIR and "bingo" a cooking revolution has begun a new word has evolved "Singeing"
This is what I call the "Columbus effect"he did not discover the Americas they were there all the time ;)
It is part of a neglected cooking process already mentioned on this forum, but quickly forgotten

Nevertheless thanks to all who went there and shared the experience with us all :)