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#241
Guy's,

Let's not get too hung up about the chefspoon.  I mean, how many recipes on here ask you to use a sixth of a chefspoon for this or an eighth of a chefspoon for that, none that I can think of?  The only time a chefspoon is mentioned in a recipe on here, is for the inclusion of a 'larger than a tbs' amount of ingredients?  Usually, those ingredients include, base gravy, diluted tom puree/paste, oil, chopped onion/pepper, nothing that's really going to drastically alter the flavour if you go over or under by a couple of grams/ml

I would be more worried for instance, if an Australian member, born and bred, was posting recipes using tbs as their unit of choice and were expecting recipe followers to read their tbs as 20ml when infact, we (Brits) seem to have adopted 15ml as our measurement for a tbs.  An extra 5ml of spice masala, chilli powder, GG paste is going to make so much more difference to the flavour of any dish than a few extra ml of oil, diluted tom puree, chopped onion/pepper or base gravy...!

Quote from: spiceyokooko on January 06, 2012, 03:32 PM
This is just part of this 'monkey sees monkey does' cooking philosophy that seems to pervade here that I so object to.

I'm getting a bit pissed off with this phrase being banded about in the way that it is.  The "monkey sees, monkey does" method is how we learn, grow, develop, progress.  It is what makes us human, primate even. Why do you insist on using this term as though it is some kind of inferior approach on things?  It is a logical approach to things, where else would you start?

You say that that method pervades here?  How do you know that it does, based on a few members accounts of how they have said that they do things, from time to time? 

I boil my onions whole in a base, Why? because I saw Chewytikka do it, monkey sees, monkey does? no, not at all.  This monkey did it because he saw another monkey do it, but more importantly, this monkey wanted to know why the other monkey did it that way.  Now this monkey thinks he knows why, and is glad he saw the other monkey do it first.  Many thanks Chewymonkey ;D  So as you see, you have to start with the method that you so object to, to gain further understanding, especially, if the knowledge is not readily on offer from the ever elusive BIR's and TA's.

Spicey, did you not join this forum in the hope of finding the ultimate curry recipe?  If so, then are you not just as guilty of hoping to use the "monkey sees, monkey does" approach? Or did you join knowing that the recipes, methods, techniques and level of experience would not be upto your high standards?

Ray
#242
Hey 976, what a lovely looking recipe, and a great tribute to your grandson, he's going to be so proud when he is older ;D

Ray :)
#243
Yes, it is a problem when reading a recipe that asks for a chefspoon, and I'm guilty of this too.  I would say this though, my chefspoon was purchased from my local Asian cash & carry and does look identical to what Julian uses, to what Dipuraja uses and many other videos that I've seen..!

That in itself does not in any way justify my choice of stating a 'chefspoon' in a recipe as there could well be a slight difference in volume but, my chefspoon holds just over 2.5 tbs of liquid such as water. It would probably hold 3 tbs of something more viscose such as gg paste.  I'd guess it would be getting close to 4 tbs for powders and flour and more like 5 tbs for pastes such as kashmiri masala or tomato paste.

So, if some members chefspoons can hold 4 tbs of water, then using my measurements above, they could hold close on 10 tbs (150ml) of tomato paste..! Really, because that is some chefspoon?

I've actually got a domestic chef/serving spoon and even though visually it looks bigger (wider) it holds exactly the same as my long handled chefspoon.

I'd be interested to see what other members actually get if they measure their spoons using the ingredients that I've suggested above...!

Ray :)

#244
George,

Quote from: George on January 05, 2012, 11:14 PM
I always thought a chef's spoon was about 4 tbls only to find that the one I bought today (the first chef's spoon I've ever had) holds just 2.5 tbls of liquid, if that.

Yep, and that's what I get with my chefspoon too. Members that report their chefspoons as holding 4tbs, must have them mixed up with a garden trowel :D

Ray :)
#245
Lets Talk Curry / Re: Smokey flavour
January 04, 2012, 12:44 PM
Hi Andy,

It really depends on what you mean by 'smokey' I suppose.  I don't really recognise the flavour as smokey but some members do. I had a discussion with another member with regards to this and it seems that the 'smokey' flavour or aroma is created at the frying stage.!

Heat the oil, add the garlic and ginger paste and when it just start to change colour add your spices and take off the heat.  Give it a good stir for 30 seconds then add diluted tom puree.  Back on the heat, low and continue to stir.  You should start to get the aroma of the spices (some people explain this aroma as a 'toffee' smell?  Then carry on as normal.

Anyway, that may be one way of getting the taste that you're looking for?

Hope that helps.

Ray :)
#246
Can someone explain why or how the title of this thread keeps changing from;
IFINDFORU THE BIR OR T/A GURAVY /SPOT ON./ THIS IS MY FINAL BASE GURAVY
to;
IFINDFORU THE BIR OR T/A GURAVY /SPOT ON./ THIS IS THE FINAL

Ray :-\
#247
Quote from: curryhell on January 02, 2012, 08:54 PM
Come on jb, i'm nearly as excited as you are to see how it / you / the two of you perform on the maiden voyage :o  ??? ::) :P ;D ;D

Yeah, c'mon jb.  You may be in possession of the Tandoor but surely you must realise that it now belongs to cr0 and it's good members, and you have it for conducting all our experimental needs?  ;D

Ray ;D

#248
I'm getting confused here.  This same thread is coming up under two different titles?  How's that happening?  Also, not that it matters one iota but, Ifindforu, are you a girl or a boy?

Ray :)
#249
Just Joined? Introduce Yourself / Re: Hi ya
January 02, 2012, 02:43 PM
Hi Daz, welcome to cr0.

Hope you get to try plenty of recipes from the forum.  All feedback is good and photos are even better ;D

Try to get to understand the writing style of the members as sometimes, the written work can be devoid of emotion, it's very easy to misconstrue a comment made sincerely.

Most of all, enjoy yourself ;D

Ray :)
#250
Lets Talk Curry / Re: Curry Night for Lads
January 02, 2012, 02:40 PM
Hi BMB,

great news on the curry night, did you try the microwave suggestion?

As for other recipes, CA's recipe are so complete from A-Z, it's going to be hard to point you in the direction of others but, as a suggestion you may want to have a look at Chewytikka's recipe.  He has a base gravy, along with a spice mix and plenty of recipes, all with the added bonus of videos.  I am currently using Chewy's gravy, even in place of my own and I can't get better at the moment.  I also use CA's recipes along with his gravy which is very easy to make and gives perfect results.

Julian from curry2go is also putting together a good collection of recipes as is Abdul Mohed.  There are also the Ashoka recipes kindly provided by panpot, so there's a bit to get you teeth into there.

Hope that helps?

Ray :)