Hope I am allowed to post those links. If not then hopefully somebody will put me right and I will remove or admin can.

EDIT.   Sorted.

Another point just occurred to me. You double the starting 'level' of veg in the pan with water not the level it has reduced to after first boil as you suggest. Big difference. 

HOLD THE FRONT PAGE!!!!!!!!

Now I have woken up properly - Phil  - I think you are looking at a different video and indeed I was looking at the same one as you to start with.

ie  this  -  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5x4oIVzfQZ4

Much clearer within the latest links from v4 of the ebook.

Links removed so as not to get CRO in any trouble.

Apologies for not recognising this earlier. Could have saved a lot of needless typing by both of us and also prevented confusing others perhaps.

Off now to do a 3.25 litre batch in my 7 l pan to produce around 6.25 litres of finished base.   

Phil
I have looked at the vid against the book albeit briefly. Ww already know about anomalies however important examples lie around -
Differing quantities in vid to book
Differing quantities ratios between 15, 7 and 3 litre bases and again when reducing the 3 different bases he explains.
That said, the video is using a 7 litre PC . Now, is that a 7 litre or a 3 litre?  He describes a 7 l elsewhere in the book and uses the same one in another vid. It is the same one I have and is deffo 7 litre but I have to agree that the one you refer to looks a bit smaller or is that the way the vid was done? Remember the high sided pans?    The quantities he describes therein are for a 7 litre Bangla base as per book. Eg 500 ml oil. Whole bunch coriander etc.
The book does say transfer base to larger pot and double volume with water. He does not mention this in vid, it just appears in the new pot.
Big further discrepancy for me between vid and book is in the vid he doubles with water and blends then adds spices before next cook. In the book the spices are added before the water and before blending and cooked 30 mins. He does say transfer to 15l pot which is clearly the second one in the video.

Not sure any of this helps re the quantity issue but having made this several times and to repeat -

I use a 7 litre pot but only fill to a tad over half. After boil and spices cooked i add water to around the 6 litre mark . My pan is graduated. After blending and last boil I normally have to add another .25 to .5 litre water to get the constancy right following some reduction. So, I produce 6 litres or a little over from a tad over 3 litres ( spacial ) of starting ingredients raw in the pan. At least Julian clearly shows the desired consistency in the vid! Something very helpful and which cannot be described in a book ( like the 'smell' ).

Hope this makes sense. Not at my best at this time of the day. Must end though by saying that the vid and book are far better read / watched in conjunction with each other.

Quote from: Phil [Chaa006] on February 25, 2013, 10:32 PM

Quote from: RubyDoo on February 25, 2013, 10:25 PM
short answer is no, you get double ish the 3l investment of veg etc. done it a few times now. The book explains as well albeit there are still several inaccuracies in v 2. Using very little water in part 1 accounts for the need to double up with water later before the last boil.

But how can that be, Ruby ?  Look at the video at exactly 03:00; this is post-cook, pre-liquidise and still in the 3L pressure cooker -- the pressure cooker is now only 2/3 full, or 3/4 at most (i.e., 2.0--2.25L).  Adding 1:1 water will yield 4.0--4.5L.

** Phil.

Got an early one tomorrow Phil. Will look at vid later and post again. 

Quote from: Phil [Chaa006] on February 25, 2013, 09:42 PM

Quote from: RubyDoo on February 25, 2013, 08:24 PM
As somebody has already mentioned, the product now needs to be very good in light of the additional hype.  if this unlocks anything 'we' don't know already then I shall be the first to apologise for doubting you but I would feel worse joining an 'after the event' band of criticism than express my doubts now. Fingers crossed that I am wrong but I have a bad feeling about this. Just a personal opinion and no offence meant but the video has not done you any favours in my eyes.

There is a third option, which is the one I prefer to exercise : I reserve my judgement until the e-book appears.  If it receives rave reviews from (say), Axe, Ray, Stephen or any of the many other members whose judgement I trust, I shall order a copy without fail; if it receives neutral or negative reviews, then I shall put the money towards something more useful.  I don't actually care whether the video is a good marketing ploy : I am interested only in what the e-book contains, not in any pre-launch marketing that Chris feels to be necessary or even worthwhile.

** Phil.

I haven't passed judgement Phil, just expressed scepticism. I really do hope there is something in this but like you will, somewhat flock like admittedly and ashamedly, await reports from those whose views I also deem trustworthy before getting anywhere near excited. I am sorry but the build up has been questionable to say the least.

Now, for me, I second the call for a proper layered biryani, royal in nature and properly accompanied by a well spiced veggy curry. 

Back on subject.  Sorry Chris.

Quote from: Phil [Chaa006] on February 25, 2013, 09:34 PM

Quote from: RubyDoo on February 25, 2013, 07:49 PM
Phil, a 3 litre base for example then gets diluted to twice the starting quantity. Ie 3 l is the size of the pot to start crammed with veg etc, very little water. You double it, ish.

Easier explained perhaps if you view the video or read the book although I would have you would have done one of these by now.

I have indeed, whence the link to the video that I posted yesterday.  However, on watching the video again, I now believe that he quietly switches containers during the cut, something I had previously failed to appreciate.  The pressure cooker has a black U-bolt handle; the liquidising container has an aluminium U-bolt container with wider spaced rivets.  So, how large is that second container ?  We don't know, so we can't accurately judge how much base he produces.  It is also unclear why he uses a 3-litre pressure cooker for the first phase when he quite clearly does not deploy its lid.  Yet he talks about cooking the post-liquidising phase with the lid on.  There is a lot unexplained here, including "what volume of undiluted base exists post-liquidising ?".  He uses very little liquid (apart from oil) and the vegetables are going to contribute nothing like their original volume in liquid.  I suspect, when all is said and done, that you might be lucky to get 4L of base (i.e., 2L of post-liquidised base concentrate diluted 1:1) from the original 3L, filled-to-the-gills-with-vegetables, pressure cooker, but only those who have actually cooked it will know if that is true.

** Phil.

short answer is no, you get double ish the 3l investment of veg etc. done it a few times now. The book explains as well albeit there are still several inaccuracies in v 4. Using very little water in part 1 accounts for the need to double up with water later before the last boil.

Quote from: meggeth on February 25, 2013, 08:03 PM
Sorry, this post is about Julians base - I did forget!!

But I was just posting my thoughts on the quantity of the base I get as one of the earlier posters was questioning volume/water/quantities, etc.

Julians was the first ever base I tried - maybe I got it wrong, but I found it too spiced, which came across in the curries I cooked. I seem to prefer a milder spiced base.

Perhaps it was too spiced due to the consistency not being right, ie , too concentrated?

Whilst I sincerely hope that this long awaited 'enlightening' works for you Chris by actually giving what is promised, any intention I may of had of investing the price of a pint has now been totally reversed by this video. What a load of nonsense.    very amateur attempt at generating future revenue by creating an increased suspense that some people are actually falling for.

As somebody has already mentioned, the product now needs to be very good in light of the additional hype.  if this unlocks anything 'we' don't know already then I shall be the first to apologise for doubting you but I would feel worse joining an 'after the event' band of criticism than express my doubts now. Fingers crossed that I am wrong but I have a bad feeling about this. Just a personal opinion and no offence meant but the video has not done you any favours in my eyes.

Quote from: meggeth on February 25, 2013, 07:08 PM
I follow CAs base (with a few of my own mods), but increase quantities by around 25%. This pretty much fills my pressure cooker. By the times it's cooked and blended, it's only around half full. This seems about right to me - CAs original recipe says it makes 2.3 litres. Makes sense doesn't it?

Ruby, your base must be very thin and watery?  ;D

Er, still something wrong. CA is not Julian. Yes, the base should be watery, like milk. Look at the vids etc. I have also done a CA base. Many rate it. It was not for me and followed to the letter is too thick.

Some confusion here me thinks between bases?  Are you doing Julian's. ( C2G ) or CA's?

Quote from: Phil [Chaa006] on February 25, 2013, 06:27 PM

Quote from: RubyDoo on February 25, 2013, 06:21 PMIs it me ?  . A 7l start like that should produce around 14 litres finished base , give or take. In my case probs a bit more.

Que ?! You can't get a quart out of a pint pot, nor can you get 14 litres of base out of a 7L pressure cooker unless you dilute it retrospectively.  What am I missing ?

** Phil.

Phil, a 3 litre base for example then gets diluted to twice the starting quantity. Ie 3 l is the size of the pot to start crammed with veg etc, very little water. You double it, ish.

Easier explained perhaps if you view the video or read the book although I would have you would have done one of these by now.