Quote from: Domi on January 10, 2012, 11:15 PM

Quote from: Razor on January 10, 2012, 11:04 AM
Ray....UTID xx

Typical Manc...it's spelt "UNITED"  : 

tsk tsk....UTID = United Till I Die, ya silly sausage xx

Hi Jack,

Quote from: Jackh on January 10, 2012, 07:53 PM
I am confused. CA / Spicey surely you both must be wrong with your definition of Tarka. Abdul, Chewy et al teach that this is a method of cooking that is introduced at the beginning not at the end of cooking a dish as an addition as you suggest. Is someone trying to deliberately mislead us all here or am I beginning to experience Toys in the Attic.

Jack

No, nobody is trying to deliberately mislead you/us.  Basically, a tarka is made at the beginning of the dish.  Other ingredients can be added once the tarka stage is complete, to continue with the dish.  A tarka can also be made with the intention of acting as a seasoning or garnish as in the dish Tarka Dal, whereby the lentils are cooked in one pan, the tarka in another.  The tarka is then added to the cooked lentils.

Hope that explains what I'm trying to say?

Ray

Sorry DP,

I don't have an answer either, but a good example of both;

In CA's base he asks us to include 40g of tomato paste and 175g of fresh tomatoes before we bring the pan to the boil,

whereas in Chewys base, he asks us to include a quarter of a tube of tomato puree after the initial 1st boil.  Two very different methods but both very good base gravies.

My base is different again, as I ask you to boil the veggies in one pan, and in  another, make a 'tarka' of oil, spices and tinned tomatoes.  Once reduced, add the 'tarka' to the pan of onions, and continue.  Just another take on things I guess.

Ray

CA,

I wasn't trying to argue the toss, just offering a reason as to why many would be reluctant to post in these threads. 

This forum is a great source of information and is extremely useful to experienced and novice cooks alike.  Where the forum lets itself down, and by 'itself' I mean ourselves, is our sometimes 'over the top, vicious, sarcastic, belittling and totally repugnant responses to other members just because we've missinterpreted their post or their opinions differ somewhat.  I'm as guilty of this as anyone for which I'm not proud of.

Ray

Quote from: Cory Ander on January 10, 2012, 04:38 PM

Quote from: Razor on January 10, 2012, 04:32 PM
No CA, I don't offer any other definition as your's and Spicey's definitions are absolutely perfect in every way.

Sorry Ray, that seems, to me, to be a rather pathetic and weak response to the original question 

It's hardly going to aid other members understanding of "important techniques", now, is it?

Bloody hell CA, your hard to please.  How can I improve on what you have already said, what is it that you want me to say?

Ray :

Quote from: Cory Ander on January 10, 2012, 04:30 PM
Come on Ray, are you REALLY for real! 

Surely it's more about HOW to do it and WHY it's done that way? (unless you're a total moron!)  :

Anybody who can't answer simple questions about how and why they do it, the way that they do, are either ignorant, or dont understand it themselves.

For me, I consider this forum to be about sharing, debating and understanding.

Oh, did you miss out insulting?

Quote from: Cory Ander on January 10, 2012, 04:20 PM

Quote from: Razor on January 10, 2012, 03:53 PM

Quote from: Cory Ander on January 10, 2012, 02:59 PM
I think that's an excellent definition Spicey.

I only wish that those that allude to "knowing better" would also respond...you know, in the spirit of the forum and for the benefit of all..... :

Unfortunately, I fear that many members would prefer to keep their 'understanding' of the definition of 'Bhoona' to themselves, in fear of ridicule should their 'understanding' differ somewhat to both yours and Spicey's excellent definitions.

Such a shame...!

The "shame" is that they appear to ridicule others for not understanding (or doing) it, but aren't prepared to elaborate for the benefit of all members!

I'm sure that if you, or others, have other definitions, or explanations, then we'd all be pleased to hear it?

No CA, I don't offer any other definition as your's and Spicey's definitions are absolutely perfect in every way.

Quote from: Cory Ander on January 10, 2012, 04:19 PM

Quote from: Razor on January 10, 2012, 03:52 PM
Unfortunately, I fear that many members would prefer to keep their 'understanding' of the definition of 'Tarka' to themselves, in fear of ridicule should their 'understanding' differ somewhat to both yours and Spicey's excellent definitions.

Such a shame...!

The "shame" is that they appear to ridicule others for not understanding (or doing) it, but aren't prepared to elaborate for the benefit of all members!

There is also the possibility that some members are actually doing it and doing it well, without understanding why or what they are doing it?  That being that they are following a recipe instruction to the letter, and acheive what  the recipe provider intendeds us to?

Isn't that what a forum like this is all about, members providing recipes for other members to follow?

Ray

Quote from: Cory Ander on January 10, 2012, 03:00 PM
I think that's an excellent definition Spicey.

I only wish that those that allude to "knowing better" would also respond...you know, in the spirit of the forum and for the benefit of all..... :

Unfortunately, I fear that many members would prefer to keep their 'understanding' of the definition of 'Bargaar' to themselves, in fear of ridicule should their 'understanding' differ somewhat to both yours and Spicey's excellent definitions.

Such a shame...!

Quote from: Cory Ander on January 10, 2012, 02:59 PM
I think that's an excellent definition Spicey.

I only wish that those that allude to "knowing better" would also respond...you know, in the spirit of the forum and for the benefit of all..... :

Unfortunately, I fear that many members would prefer to keep their 'understanding' of the definition of 'Bhoona' to themselves, in fear of ridicule should their 'understanding' differ somewhat to both yours and Spicey's excellent definitions.

Such a shame...!