Quote from: Phil (Chaa006) on June 15, 2012, 02:16 PM

Quote from: StoneCut on June 15, 2012, 12:40 PM
Phil, but what if you don't want to double but make tenfold portions ?

Well, Neil and I are suggesting similar forumulae, and extrapolating both gives around four times the spicing for ten times the portion size

That makes absolutely no sense, whatsoever.  Just do a though experiment:

a)  Imagine cooking two "single portions" of curry and combining them.  You now have (without question) two times each of all of the ingredients in your "double portion" (including all the spices, garlic, ginger, etc).

b)  Now imagine cooking a double portion, in the way that you suggest.  You no longer have the same quantity of ingredients in it as in a) above. 

Therefore, they cannot be the same!

To my mind, if you want to cook a double portion (or 10 fold portion, or an "x" time portion) then you must double (or increase by 10 fold, or increase by "x" times) all of the ingredients.

It is totally illogical and unscientific to suggest otherwise.

Quote from: StoneCut on June 11, 2012, 02:26 PM
I guess you didn't mean me anyway

You're right, SC, there simply aren't enough knives available! 

You'd be well down on my list! 

I'll be interested to hear of your base results, irrespective of which you choose to make 

Faaaaark!  Can I borrow them, please, 976bar?  I feel I have a need for them, right now! 

Quote from: Les on June 11, 2012, 01:49 PM

Quote from: Cory Ander on June 11, 2012, 01:27 PM
Or aren't trolls receptive that that?  : 

I just tell it as i see it, (As you do) Nothing more, And if you don't agree...Well what can i say.

Les

Nothing?  Les?  :

Quote from: George on June 11, 2012, 12:31 PM
It's an interesting point. If the terms and conditions which you reminded us of are correct, none of CA's recipes still belong to him, as rights were transferred to this forum. So Admin could give the go-ahead to StoneCut to re-publish them, for example, but deny it to CA! So it's not CA's call at all, really. It follows that CA is almost irrelevant in this context, leaving aside any aspect of common decency for a moment.

Trust you to pour fuel onto the smouldering fire, George  :

Check the date that Admin revised the Terms and Conditions (December 2010).  Then check when I posted my recipes (mostly well before that).  I originally revamped the bloody Terms and Conditions before that!  If you want a copy of Terms and Conditions existant at that time I will gladly PM them to you!

Irrespectively, as SC says, it doesn't much matter what is written in the Terms and Conditions; it's what's upholdable in law. 

And, as far as I understand it, recipes ARE protected by copyright.  And that copyright is automatically assigned to the original author. 

As I understand it, a list of ingredients is not necessarily copyright, but the recipe methodology, and images, certainly are. 

But, as I said, I don't want to get into that debate, or the semantics about it (which, it seems, some members are singularly unable to accept).

And, as you rightly say, there is also the issue of common decency.  And that's what mostly concerns me about this recent debate; the apparent lack of common decency!

If members feel that their contributions will be frivolously copied and posted elsewhere, the REAL downside to the forum is that the contributors will STOP posting.

As a footnote, I would like to say that my comments in my last post were general and not directed at anyone in particular (apart from my reference to the majority of views subsequently posted in this thread).  I appreciate SC's good intent and only wish that other members would see the value in protecting the intellectual property of this forum and it's contributors.

As another footnote, I would like to acknowledge SC's sincere attempts to diffuse the situation.  Much appreciated SC. 

Quote from: Les on June 11, 2012, 01:22 PM
Sorry to disagree StoneCut,
Each member is as important as the next, No exceptions.

I believe SC was being overly modest in order to diffuse the situation Les (which I very much appreciate SC).  Perhaps that's something you could try yourself sometime?  Or aren't trolls receptive to that?  : 

Quote from: Les on June 10, 2012, 06:28 PM
My own view is that if your recipes are that important to you..................Don't post them at all

Ain't that the truth!  But what a poor, selfish, sad, attitude.

Frankly, guys, most of the views expressed on this thread stink.  They show a total disregard for the time and effort that some of our members put in to providing recipes (and other content) for the benefit of other members of this forum.  They show a total disregard for the intellectual property ownership of that content by its author (its copyright...get over it!).

I expect this forums Admin to protect that copyright on behalf of the authors and the forum.  Failing that, I will (for my content).

Another option, which I am willing to consider, is to have Admin remove all of my content from the forum. 

To condone, and attempt to justify, anyone "stealing" recipes and other content (which is what it amounts to; you and I have absolutely no idea what another person really intends to do with it!) is reprehensible.

I have pointed out a perfectly sensible and reasonable compromise.  There are right ways and there are wrong ways of doing it.  It seems that some people are far too dense and/or ignorant to see it.

They are programs that "crawl" over a website to look for, and extract, search terms and links from a website and pages for search engines (e.g. Google).

They also report on the "health" of the website and on things like the presence of malware.  They also enable the website owner to manage the websites effectiveness (e.g. Google Analytics).

If you want to get your website high up in the search term listings, you would invite them to "crawl" your site.

So they are not necessarily a bad thing and are invariably good.

That's as I understand it anyway.

Stone Cut,

You messaged me with the above response and I messaged you with my reply as follows:

Stone Cut,

Quote from: StoneCut
ALL content is ONLY posted to this forum (feel free to search the web)

But it's not, Stone Cut, is it?  It is posted (and downloadable from) elsewhere (i.e. YOUR OWN HOSTING!)

Quote from: StoneCut
this forum doesn't allow anymore uploads (check my Bruce Edwards post)

Yes, I understand this to be the case.  And that is why I suggested that you contact Admin to sort it out

Quote from: StoneCut
Regardless, I continue to respect your wishes

I appreciate that Stone Cut

Quote from: StoneCut
whatever bad intentions you imply

Actually Stone Cut, I went to great lengths NOT to imply that you had bad intentions!  Frankly, I don't know you from Adam and have absolutely NO idea what you intend.

Quote from: StoneCut
and will therefore remove the doc with your recipes and any other removal requests

Thank you, once again.  Alternatively, discuss getting it put on this forum with Stew (Admin) as I suggested.

Quote from: StoneCut
I'm not very happy about it (mostly due to to you implying I post the content elsewhere which really makes me mad)

Well, I'm awfully sorry about that.  But, had you bothered to discuss it with me and Admin, beforehand (which would have been polite), I might have been more receptive to it.  But I would probably have suggested the same thing.

Have you spoken to Stew?  I suggest that you do.

I suggest we communicate by personal message if we need to discuss this further.

Thanks.

Hi SC,

I, too, commend you on doing a great job of compiling these recipes into a number of discrete documents.  However, I do have some concerns and wish to make a couple of points (which I've had occasion to make several times before in similar situations):

ALL recipes and images (including those posted on this forum) are subject to intellectual property rights and copyright (copyright is automatically assigned to the author).  The original author owns that copyright and the recipes and images may not be reproduced or disseminated without their express permission.  I do not want to get into an anally retentive argument (or semantics) about this but, suffice to say, it IS the case. 

I cannot speak for others, but I post recipes on this forum for sole use by our forums' members only.  I DO NOT permit anyone to copy my recipes and disseminate them by any other means (without my express permission). 

However, (if I understand you correctly?) it may be that you have simply compiled these recipes for your own personal use and wish to make them available to this forums' members only?  If so, I have no objection to that, but I am still uncomfortable with them being made available for download from elsewhere.  Therefore, I suggest that you contact Admin to get him to make them available for download directly from this forum (e.g. from this forums download section here: https://curry-recipes.co.uk/curry/index.php?board=5.0).