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#201
Lets Talk Curry / Re: Bulk cooking
April 28, 2023, 03:49 AM
It's Turmeric and Mixed Powder Phil.  I asked him a few years back.

Foureyes, this year would have been my 3rd time doing bulk catering for my wife's work (4 year cycle) but the new faculty administration has decided to do it without me this year.  On the previous 2 occasions I catered for 40 - 50 people with 4 different mains dishes, rice, Tikka, naan and sides, so I'm not too disappointed to be relieved of my duty this time around.  Most were kids so it was all very mild dishes which makes it somewhat easier than hot curries.

I have been involved in this discussion here before, not without controversy, but I'd done it while others who argued the negative had not.

Tip number 1.  Do not increase spices to a linear scale.  Each spice is somewhat different, and some like ground cumin and coriander, can be almost just directly scaled up, while others like chilli, pepper and strong aromatics cannot.  Then there are those which fall in between like turmeric.  There are food science resources which state that spices should be increased at a ratio of 1.4 to 1.5 times for each doubling of quantity, but I found that this only begins to make a noticeable difference when you get up to 8 - 10 servings.  In other words, doubling from 1 to 2 serves is fine and even 2 to 4 serves will be OK. However, once you go up to around 8 serves you really need to be dropping back on the strong spices.  This was my experience anyway.  I never used much chilli, but I'd be going even further in knocking it back to around 1.2 X.  It depends on the tolerance levels of your target diners.

Tip number 2.  If I had been asked to do it again this year, I would approach it quite differently.  I would have committed the cardinal sin of using commercial sized "paste" packs. Pataks makes at least 3 that I have used, and they are perfectly fine, easy to use and designed to be utilised in commercial settings where bulk cooking is essential.  The 3 I've used previously are the Korma, the Butter Chicken and the Mild Curry.  The Korma is not like a BIR dull korma but a really nice flavour.  The Butter Chicken is also very good as is the Mild Curry.

Combine these pastes in a ratio proportionate to the instructions on the jar, with a bulk cooked Base Onion Gravy and loads of pre-cooked meats and vegetables and you'll be pleasantly surprised.  I have just recently cooked both Chicken and Lamb Korma over the last weekend along with 7 other main BIR style dishes for a lunch on Sunday and the Lamb Korma was the most liked dish.  I used Misty Ricardo's pre-cook recipes for both chicken and lamb as well as doing beef the same as the lamb.  You do not need to scale linearly for bulk pre-cooks either.  Just use a bit of common sense.

Tip number 3.  Base gravy is able to be scaled linearly regardless of any instruction or argument to the contrary.  However, use less gravy the more you make.  You simply will not get the same amount of reduction for large quantity cooking and it will end up too loose and wet.  You could deliberately keep your gravy thick to start with.

I know a chap who used to frequent this forum. I can ask him about scaling up spices.  I'll do so and report back to you.

If you have a few weeks, get ready and do a practice.  You can always freeze and bring it out later to be included in the actual preparations for the day.

Good luck. From experience I know it's a lot of work but very rewarding when everybody enjoys your efforts.
#202
Lets Talk Curry / Re: How much deggi mirch
April 19, 2023, 11:43 PM
Thanks Phil.  I'll be cooking today and tomorrow for visitors on Saturday, so I'll use it accordingly.  I'll do a single serve sampler to be sure.

I just looked through my cupboards and found I have a box of the MDH Kashmiri Chilli Powder as well. I'd forgotten that I bought it.
#203
Lets Talk Curry / Re: How much deggi mirch
April 18, 2023, 08:44 AM
Just bought my first box of this.  I've been meaning to try it for years.  I believe it is a blend and not a pure variety of chilli.  This is from the description; 

"MDH is a famous quality brand of India. Deggi mirch is used as a chilli powder for curries, bbq and other homemade dishes. It gives bright red color and taste to your home cooked dishes. It is slightly hotter than paprika but is used more to add color and taste than heat to dishes."

Now, my problem is that I already have what is supposedly Kashmiri Chilli Powder, which in my opinion is neither ultra mild nor colourful.  I very much doubt it is what it is supposed to be, but that is a whole different matter. I also have Indian Paprika which is not without any heat, as is plain supermarket / Hungarian paprika.  I spoke to an Indian Chef once who said KCP and Paprika are the same thing in his kitchen and I would say that the two products I have are pretty much the same thing.  I do have Hungarian Paprika (plain and smoked) which is a zero in the heat scale.

I also have plain Red Chilli Powder which is hotter than both of the above and then I have Hot Chilli Powder which I never normally use for family dishes.  It is hot.

So, I'm asking anybody who's used this product before, forgetting about the extremes being the likes Naga, Ghost and Scorpions etc, how does MDH Deggi Mirch fit into your heat scale?  Assume that plain Hungarian Paprika is a 0, KCP / Indian Paprika is a 3, Red Chilli Powder is a 6 and Hot Chilli Powder is a 10, where would MDH Deggi Mirch fit?  When they say slightly hotter than paprika, are they referring to Hungarian or Indian?
#204
This explains it.

https://youtu.be/7WJYOgzFydc

#205
Not KFC then, hey Rob?  The holy grail of true KFC is apparently pressure frying.  Oh, and the secret 11 herbs snd spices.
#206
Ok. You had me worried there. I don't mind a bit of oil but that last picture is very well lubricated.,
#207
Mate, no offence intended (again) but a couple of those dishes have got more oil in them than my deep fryer.  Is that really how you would eat it?  I know a lot of people like a bit of oil on the curry but that is more than I've ever seen willingly photographed and posted.
#209
Yes. Forgot, I only make 1/2 quantities and use about 30g per go.
#210
No, not from the same bag.  My first batch was made with the last of my existing Cassia when you first posted the recipe, and I then went and bought a new small bag locally to do #2.  The last 2 batches were made with another fresh bag from the Indian Grocer in the city.  So, 4 batches of gravy from 3 different bags of Cassia and other older and fresher spices as well. No difference that i could tell.

I was in the city again today which is where I found that 400g bag in the photo.  I didn't buy it as I don't need that much.