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#201
Hi Ian,

In Mridula Balkejar's book she say's no need to peel before blending. Personally I prefer to get rid of the skin and certainly those knobbly bits before use.
It does look like the ginger in the DVD isn't peeled doesn't it. Never noticed that before!

Ray
#202
Lets Talk Curry / Re: Just got my Kushi Balti Book!
November 27, 2005, 09:27 PM
Hi All,

Right then, here we go, this is my ( long, drawn out ) contribution to the Kushi debate.

This weekend I have just made three curries of which TWO were from the Kushi Book.

I made the base as instructed with one small exception and that was I used Garlic/Ginger puree from a jar instead of fresh. I used the same amount as the recipe (10-15 gms of each) so actually used about 25 gms of the Ginger/Garlic mix in total.
Apart from this I did as instructed.

As I reported before the base was quite aromatic smelling which isn't surprising as some powerful whole spices are used, Cardamom, Cinnamon, Cloves, Star Anise, Fenugreek Seeds and of course the controversial Mace!.
I do not have a "cooking net" as the book suggests but used a metal "infuser" which is like two tea strainers clipped together to hold the spices so they can be easily removed ( Sainsbury's sell em cos their posh! ).
Perhaps, as this is a fairly open mesh more of the spice flavour infused the base so would explain why mine was quite aromatic.
I have some pics as well but can't seem to get them on the site!!

I then made the Tomato/Spice mix and added this to the Onion, Peppers, Carrot and Spice mix.

Once cool and blended this light brown mixture was the texture and thickness of condensed soup. It had an underlying kick to it and a pleasant taste but not quite what I had expected. Perhaps after all the build up to this book I was expecting the words BIR to jump from my lips but it didn't.
Never mind, press on!

The pre-cooking method produces moist meat ( I did Chicken ) with a subtle taste, certainly not overpowering curry tasting but pleasant marinaded Chicken would best describe it. I can't knock it, and it does add to the overall result.

However, the pre-cooked meat in the Balti Kitchen video is on a par if not better.

The book does state that things need to come together to make the final result!
Forever onward!

The star attraction seems to be the unique Kushi Spice mix which is said to be a closely guarded secret by many chefs.
I must say it is reminiscent of the Bruce Edwards spice mix but does make me think a mix like this is a pretty essential ingredient to an authentic curry.

After all it is used in every recipe in this book!

Once armed with the blended base sauce and the Kushi Spice the recipes are a doddle.
Fry some more Onion and Garlic, add the Kushi Spice Mix, a ladle of sauce, some Tomatoes, Coriander and away you go!! Some variations in some recipes but generally speaking the main work is done at the start with the base and pre-cooking. Prawns don't need pre-cooking!

The Basic Balti I found was very pleasant tasting. Not quite "in your face" BIR but non-the-less a very acceptable curry ( don't give up on it Pete! ).

It might not have "that taste" ( more in a minute ) we all use as the benchmark but both myself and family ( who are the guineapigs of authenticity ) felt it was a good contender as a recipe to try again. It does taste like it comes from a restaurant even though some might say not "their" particular one! There are loads near me and they all have their differences.

The King Prawn Patia was ( I am told ).............lovely!.
I can't stomach Prawns ( tastes like kissing Grimsby Dock! ), so it was my other half who gave it the thumbs up.
Sweet and sour and "just like from down the road" was the reply.

Blondie was saying his partner likes the food from this restaurant and the tastes are quite subtle and certainly not too spicy, more aromatic so maybe these recipes would suit someone with a less fiery pallet.

As an experiment I used some of the base sauce that was left over and re-fried it with more oil as the original base with only 60mls of oil did not yield any to skim off.
I added about 200 mls of Veg oil and simmered it for about 20 mins. The resultant oil that came off was absolutely gorgeous. Dark, Spicy and Aromatic and with the Smokey taste we all look for.

I wonder if this oil is then used in any future cooking of the Kushi recipes we might not get closer to the result we want to achieve?

I think "Mark J" has the right idea in that we should not give up too soon. I had a good result, not superb but good enough to warrant a second try.
Pete, I don't know what happened mate but "stew" doesn't describe mine!

"Blondie" has seen some good results.

"Vin Daloo" has tried it but thinks it worth using KD's base or Bruce's Edward's as an option? I agree it's worth a try.

Personally, I have had some good results this weekend, not perfect but good quality curry worthy of another go and a bit of "tweaking".

For anyone out there thinking of trying the Kushi Book I would say give it a go............at least once.

Regards

Ray G

Oh!, and if you are wondering what the third dish was it was CTM from the Balti Kitchen Video.
The base sauce from this is worth a look! Dead simple but makes a good curry.
And as for the Chicken Tikka Masala I think it's absolutely great and my son can't get enough of it. The only thing I do different from the video is add a quarter of a block of Coconut as well just before serving...............beautiful stuff!


Good cooking folks!
#203
Lets Talk Curry / Re: Just got my Kushi Balti Book!
November 27, 2005, 11:28 AM
Yes. it is Mice.
It was a misprint in the book!
Got one out of the trap and tried it. Works a treat but makes it a bit cunchy though! Strangely enough the cat seems to love it?!

Wonder why?

Ray
#204
Lets Talk Curry / Re: Just got my Kushi Balti Book!
November 27, 2005, 11:01 AM
I dunno,

You guys sure have dampened my spirit. I am sat here with a Kushi Base, ready to go. Kushi pre-Cooked Chicken, ready to go. Kushi Spice, ready to go and a family that I have hyped up to expect something special. Maybe once they have eaten it they will be "ready to go" too!!
I am in two minds whether to bin it and get one delivered tonight instead.

But then again I am not blaming anyone, it's just that my hopes were up on the arrival of this book and now I am not sure we have got that bit nearer to what we have already got. Perhaps the opposite.

I must agree with you Pete, there is already something about this base that say's "not quite right" but I can't see exactly what. On the face of it there is a resemblance to the Bruce Edwards base but that's about it.
The Kushi spice seems o.k. , a bit similar to Bruce's spice mix. The pre-cooked chicken's rather garlicky but otherwise bland. There is a better pre-cooked chicken in the Balti House video.

I am going to go ahead with it I think as then I can say "tried it, bought the T-Shirt etc" then put the book to bed!

My nearest BIR Pete is about a mile away. In fact we have 6 about this distance even though we are a fairly small village. Most of these are very good but the best are in Keighley and Bradford.
My nearest town (Keighley) has some great Asian shops but none that sell Mace. One guy looked at me in bewilderment when I asked for it. "Mice". he said, "we don't have mice!".
Must have tought I was taking the P--s!

I am not that dedicated to trailing miles for a bag of spice. I happened to get an emergency call while I was working which co-incidentally took me to Bradford so by luck managed to get some Mace there. George was on standby ready to kindly send me some.
You could say I drove to Bradford at 90 m.p.h. in an emergency for a bag of spice!!!

The book "Bombay Brasserie Cookbook" uses Mace, mainly in it's Garam Masala. I will dig it out and see if there is anything of interest for everyone.

As for Blondie, I am wondering where HE ( yes it's a fella ) has gone myself. He did tell me in an e-mail he has had success with recipes from the book before it was published so it would be good to hear what one's he made and what results he had.


Regards

Ray
#205
Well, you know they bung "curry sauce" on their chips up here in Yorkshire thar knows tol lad!

An it's reet gud too!

Ray
#206
Lets Talk Curry / Re: Just got my Kushi Balti Book!
November 26, 2005, 07:40 PM
Hi All,

I have just finished the base myself and must say it is fairly aromatic. I travelled 20 miles to get the Mace which on the face of it is only a small part of the spicing used. On it's own it is a pretty pungeant spice isn't it!

I have had three replies from the Kushi "help line" so far so at least they seem keen to help. I thought the base smelled and tasted nice, and reminicent of one or two I have made before "100 Best Balti's" perhaps. It does seem to me to have a predominant "cinnamon" taste so maybe I put in a bit much.
I think it has some potential so it may well be spoilt by the addition of the spice mix? I can't give my findings yet as I am not making a curry from it until tomorrow so will report again then.

I have not made KD's base for some time so it may be the time to give it a try again for a comparison.

Ray
#207
Lets Talk Curry / Re: Did You Buy The Book ?
November 26, 2005, 07:25 PM
Hi,

Yes, I bought the book and so far have just made the base sauce and for me it is great, so the book even so far gets a thumbs up from me. Tomorrow the base goes in to a Basic Balti. I can't wait.

Ray
#208
Hi Ashes,

Reading the text of the book it seems the recipes etc are what the restaurant makes for it's customers and have not been adapted.
Some recipes may seem a little different in small ways to what we are used to but then again each restaurant can have a different method of making a dish anyway.

I have e-mailed the info line and I have found I have got a couple of replies to questions I have sent to the restaurant ( or whoever gets the e-mails ) and I don't think you need to buy the book to contact them yourself on their website www.baltibook.co.uk if you have some questions.

It would be a great idea to meet up en-mass for a night at the restaurant but the logistics of getting a big group together is quite a hard task. Might be worth a seperate posting on the site to gauge interest.

My own thoughts on the book so far is that it has generated an interest for me as there are a number of things different to the base and recipes we have on this site at the moment which gives me the inspiration to get cooking.
I am going to follow the book this weekend and report but in the meantime I think it is worth ?9 of anyones money to buy it and give it a go.
It may be a short book but for the price of a curry I consider it a good addition to my ever increasing curry library.

Regards

Ray
#209
Hi All,

Have already got my ingredients set out for a curry cookathon from the book at the weekend. The only thing is I could only find powdered Mace and not whole so will have to guess how much to use. Maybe 1/2 tsp??

I am going to do the basic Balti first and will report my findings.

Ray
#210
Lets Talk Curry / Re: Bitter curry problem
November 25, 2005, 09:41 AM
Hi Mark,

Yes, that's exactly the one! I got mine in Fenwick's in London but it is good value on the site you found and postage is pretty good seeing as it weighs a ton. Like the description say's it holds heat and has a very even heat distribution too.
It's just a bit tricky to wash as it is a bit big for my sink!
A cracking piece of kit though!

Ray