Fair enough — for me, a paella needs chicken (ideally thigh, definitely not breast), prawns, mussels and squid as the carnivore/pescivore elements (I am not that keen on chorizo), and I find the combination so good that after discovering paella alla Valenciana I created my own dish :  arroz con pollo et con pesce, which included just chicken and smoked haddock.  And of course the Americans have their "surf and turf", although the carnivore element of that is beef and not chicken.

Quote from: livo on August 23, 2023, 12:39 AM
I do chicken dishes and prawn dishes.  I like both but combining the 2 isn't something I've seen.

Paella ?

No, I confess that I didn't, Livo.  And from your description, I would not have enjoyed it had I done so.  I don't want fried onion, tomato slices, lettuce, barbecue sauce, sweet beetroot, or a slice of pineapple.  I really do like my food plain and unadulterated.  The finest hamburgers I have ever encountered were served in the faculty club of the University of Waterloo (Ontario, Canada).  A hamburger to die for, but they served the first one with fried potato skins, which I had to explain to my server were the part of the potato that we throw away in the U.K.
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Quote from: livo on August 19, 2023, 11:44 PM
Why reinvent the wheel? A doner kebab isn't complete without red sauce and toum.

Most hamburger eaters would same the same about a hamburger ("must have the salad / mayonnaise / tomato ketchup / gherkin / w-h-y"), but I'm sorry, I disagree.  When I have a hamburger, I want to taste the burger and the bun, nothing more (apart from lashings of salt, that is, and cheese and/or bacon if I am after that particular variant that day).  And I am exactly the same with my kebabs — kebab meat, pitta bread, lemon (for shish kebab, not for doner) and some pickled chillies, nothing more.  Each to their own, of course, but if I can't taste the primary ingredient unadulterated by salad / mayonnaise / tomato ketchup / gherkin / red sauce / toum / w-h-y, then I don't want to know.
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Quote from: Robbo141 on August 19, 2023, 02:18 PM
I too hate vinegary things like ketchup and mayo ...

Oddly enough, I don't taste any vinegar in either tomato ketchup (into which I frequently dip any remaining chips/fries once the other parts of the dish have been eaten), nor do I taste vinegar in the egg mayonaise as made at my wife's hotel.  But I do taste the vinegar in the majority of commercial egg mayonnaises, which is why I don't eat them.  In a decent mayonnaise, the vinegar content, if present at all — one can use lemon juice, is (a) white wine vinegar, as opposed to malt vinegar, and (b) completely masked by the sheer volume of oil, egg, etc.
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(Chilli sauce with doner kebab) I honestly don't see the point — I want to taste the lamb (or the beef mixed with chicken mixed with lamb mixed with mutton mixed with the sweepings from the abbatoir) and its spicing, and I can't do that if it has chilli sauce on it.

Quote from: tempest63 on August 19, 2023, 09:41 AM
I feel I may be missing out. From memory I don't believe I have ever set foot in a Lidl and certainly haven't been in an Iceland in over 20 years.
Was Iceland once Bejam or similar?

In brief, and to the last, "well, sort of".  In 1988, Bejam bought the Victor Value supermarket chain off Tesco. Then, while it was still hugely successful, Apthorp [the founder of Bejam] sold Bejam to Iceland in 1989, and all of the stores used the Iceland name.

As to "I don't believe I have ever set foot in a Lidl ", I suppose if one has Fortnum's, Harrod's and Selfridge's on one's doorstep, one has little need for Aldi or Lidl, but for those of us banished to the colonies (read: Cornwall), one has little option ...
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Quote from: Secret Santa on August 19, 2023, 09:31 AM
It's not perfect but the one thing it isn't is in need of is more salt.

So what should I add to liven it up (apart from pickled chillies) ?  And please don't tell me "chilli sauce" because I Do Not Eat Chilli Sauce With Doner Kebabs (or any other kebab, for that matter).  In fact I don't eat chilli sauce at all, because I dislike the vinegar content, but I do eat a very great deal of chilli oil (with shrimps or scallops) with Chinese food.
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Quote from: Peripatetic Phil on August 14, 2023, 11:54 AM
I am minded to invest in some Iceland King Kebab meat and try re-heating it under the Tepro steak grill on minimum power ...

Cooked some that way this evening — initial reaction was positive, but pleasure started to fade long before I had finished the pitta.  Rather bland, needs salt, not really a patch on the Real Thing™.  The Lidl "shish" (= "seekh") kebabs, on the other hand, remain excellent and I now have 5 packs of six in the freezer and one in the 'fridge.  The only thing that really livened up the Iceland doner kebab was a pickled chilli that I must have had in the 'fridge for well over three months !
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Sell it to Cory Ander !