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#1131
Lets Talk Curry / Re: A negative View On BIR
February 28, 2011, 05:32 PM
Hi Paul
As we all know "Nothing" is like Mum's cooking ;D

But I suppose it all comes down to individual taste again,
It would be a boring life if we all liked the same thing.

HS
#1132
Lets Talk Curry / Re: A negative View On BIR
February 28, 2011, 04:58 PM
Hi Axe
I was searching for Daag curry base when i came across it here

http://forums.egullet.org/index.php?/topic/80626-daag-curry-base/

HS
#1133
Lets Talk Curry / A negative View On BIR
February 28, 2011, 04:08 PM
Just being reading this post online,

I've no idea if this preparation of a curry base is commonly done in restaurants, but I can talk (more or less) about what some of the worse Indian restaurants in the UK allegedly do.

Years back,I skimmed through a book on (UK) Indian restaurant cooking. I think it was The Curry Secret by Kris Dhillon, though if more than one book has been written on the subject it could well have been a different book.

It was interesting in a horrifying sort of way. At the time I had recently moved to the UK from India, and had been mystified/disgusted by the food served in Indian restaurants in the town I was living - I really couldn't understand quite what they had been doing to make the food so bad (particularly because the restaurants included some places that actually smelt pretty good if you walked past them earlier in the day while onions and spices were being fried). This book went a long way in explaining how this really unpleasant food had been produced.

I certainly didn't read the book carefully, or at length, and it was about a decade ago, so some details may be wrong. But from what I do recall, the method for most 'slow-cooked meats' was more or less as follows:

Boil meat (or poultry, or whatever else) in water flavored with turmeric. When meat is done, discard water, shred meat and set aside for when dish is ordered.

Make a very large batch of generic 'curry sauce' by frying onions, ginger, garlic, tomatoes, and a few spices (no meat added at this point). When a specific dish is ordered, add more of certain ingredients to the sauce for that dish - e.g. sprinkle in large amounts of Kasoori methi (dried fenugreek), or add extra cream, etc. then add plain shredded meat, re-heat and serve.

This explained not just the bland tastelessness of most dishes served, but the strangeness of the many menu items:
for example many places had (or still have?) one whole section of the menu devoted to foods strongly flavored with dried fenugreek - though a popular enough spice in Indian it is not crumbled at random over virtually any dish in the manner offered by these restaurants.
Another menu section in one place that sticks particularly in my mind was a choice of 'South Indian' chicken, pork, lamb, or beef in a cream sauce with pineapple and flambeed brandy (no, I did not eat in that restaurant, I simply read its menu in the window, shuddered and moved on.)

Clearly, this type of flavoring is simply a ploy of using strong-tasting or distinctive ingredients to make one generic sauce taste different. It is also clearly different from the spice/onion base mentioned in C. Punjabi as in that case certain key ingredients are being prepared in bulk and then combined and cooked together with the meats.


(Of course, preparing a large batch of a few basic ingredients that are commmonly included is not necessarily a bad thing. Independently of cookbooks and simply for her own convenience my (Indian) mother-in-law has for years made a base by frying a large batch of onions, ginger, garlic, tomato, cumin, coriander and turmeric, which she then freezes in smaller portions and uses as a short-cut in her vegetable dishes. It works for her. Almost all her food is cooked in one particular regional style, and there is not usually a huge variation in the type of spicing she uses, so making up a large batch in advance makes sense for the way she cooks. )


#1134
Curry Base Chat / Re: KD2 base
February 25, 2011, 09:31 AM
Thanks Jerry for taking the time to do that for me,

I have never done any of her bases, (I use Admins New Base) Just wanted to try one out and see what it's like, The reports on here are not good though, but as always it's down to personal taste

and like you I just chuck everything in the pot,

Cheers
HS
#1135
Lets Talk Curry / Re: Favourite Recipe Books
February 23, 2011, 08:44 PM
#1136
Starters and Side Dishes Chat / Re: Poppadom (moved)
February 23, 2011, 12:21 PM
This is from the KD1 cookbook

Heat the oil in a large deep frying pan until very hot but not smoking. Take two popadoms at a time, and holding them as one, carefully slip them into the hot oil. As soon as they are immersed turn them over using tongs or two fish slices. Hold the two popadoms together as one all the time. Allow no more than two seconds and remove from the hot oil.
Drain on kitchen paper upright (like toast in a toast rack), and not flat, for the best results.
Note. In the restaurant we use a large aluminium colander for this purpose and put the fried popadoms in side by side. The colander is then placed in a hot plate, a piece of equipment rather like the bottom section of a 'hostess' trolley. The technique allows the oil to drain away efficiently and keeps the popadoms warm, dry, and crisp. Placing the cooked popadoms in a warm oven will of course be just as effective.
Popadoms may be cooked several hours in advance and warmed just before serving.
#1137
Curry Base Chat / Re: KD2 base
February 22, 2011, 06:42 PM
Hi Jerry
I do have the KD1 book but not KD2, I was just wondering what the changes were in the two bases,
And yes Jerry, could you please sum up the changes for me,
Thanks
HS
#1138
Curry Base Chat / Re: KD2 base
February 22, 2011, 10:43 AM
Do we have the KD2 base published on the site anywhere?
Or can someone post it?
Wouldn't mind giving it a go

HS
#1139
Cheers Jerry
Think I'll give your number one a go weekend if i get a chance.
HS
#1140
Quote from: Ramirez on February 16, 2011, 04:30 PM
Shall we just forget the whole thing?

Quote from: hotstuff09 on February 16, 2011, 04:17 PM
George being a mod doesn't mean he cannot have an opinion in my view

You're completely right, it doesn't mean he cannot state his opinion. However, new users seeing a mod make comments like that is pretty harmful to the forum IMO, especially on a small forum like this where new regular-posting users are rare. It isn't appropriate.

Im new here but I don't think it harmful, just honest