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#1
I can't be alone in receiving promotional Facebook information about this

Is anyone going to be doing this online course with Adey?

I saw a price somewhere
I think it was about ?70

I think that videos generally is what made this forum become so quiet
Perhaps it all seems a little old hat, typing stuff out
It used to be the only source of info
#2
Me and my wife went to the Prince of India at Windermere,  on Tuesday
Best curry house I've been to, for a long time
I had a vegetable Balti
Lovely simple flavour, with that something extra, that I can't make at home!
Fantastic sauce and vegetables cooked with still a little bite

Vegetable Rhogan Josh
This wasn't as expected but still delicious
Very tomatoey and moreish flavour

The naan was amazing
so light it nearly floated of the plate
It was seriously fantastic
It was brushed with melted butter too (wish I had one now!)

the poppadoms were served with 4 pickles/chutneys:-
the standard chopped onion with mint sauce, yoghurt rhata, lime pickle and an amazing garlic pickle
I tell you, that garlic pickle on top of a bit of poppadom was truly incredible
I can buy that stuff round here
I'm going to get some tomorrow

Wish I could go back again to this restaurant
but it's 170 miles away
Crying shame


the place was 3/4 full and the staff were polite and very helpful

If you are in the area, check it out
The bill was ?22
The only downside is that it's upstairs
I couldn't see any special lift, or help for anyone with mobility difficulties

here's a link
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Prince+Of+India/@54.3780618,-2.9055278,3a,75y,82.81h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0YuJl0RR1YNXSScqC12g5w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x60861deb4a3c04a0!6m1!1e1


#3
Anyone just starting BIR cooking should check out Adey's courses
Although I have been cooking BIR at home for many years Adey still managed to show me cooking Techniques and how he makes his base
There was a lot to learn
It was over 2 four hour lessons that we covered:-

Base gravy
Spice mix
ginger garlic puree
garlic puree
Tomato paste
Service Onions
Onion Bhajee
Spiced oil

Curries:-
patia
vindaloo
madras
rhogan
bhajee

He cooked a curry and then I had a go

Adey is making a living at this so told me not to reveal recipes
Sorry
But if you check out Adey and Julians recipes on youtube, it's pretty much all there
His gravy is particularly good

Doing the course has refined my technique
Adey stands over you as you cook
He tells you what heat is required, and when
He prompts you for the ingredients

He is also a very decent bloke, as are the other staff I met

If I'd had this course at the start of my curry cooking, it would have taken years off my search
The curries are not identical to ones I buy locally, but are definite BIR quality
#4
You can eat in at Munchies, Mansfield Road, Nottingham or take out
I wouldn't bother doing either again
I'm a little late writing this up as it happened a week ago
I bought three curries from there
Vindaloo, Madras and Vindaloo and they were so dull, it was unbelievable
We never even finished them
Bland and tasteless
I can cook far above this standard, and I don't think I'm good enough
The vegetables used were from a pack of "frozen vegetables"
I reckon it was a cheap one, as well (Adsa smart price maybe?)
You can tell by the baby carrots, and bits of corn in it
A waste of money, never going there again
#5
I got food from the Shabab, Radford Road, Nottingham last night
Chicken Roghan Josh, Veg Vinadaloo, Veg Madras,Veg Rhogan Josh ,3 Pillau Rice, 1 Naan,Poppadoms and chutneys.
(I have recently lost my favourite takeaway and this place was recommended)
I collected as they don't deliver, and there was some sort of a celebration going on
There was a gang of people outside chuffing away on their ciggies and I fought my way through
The restaurant was absolutely packed
All seats taken, and people shoulder to shoulder
They must have been making a fortune

I paid for the curries and brought them home
I'm told that this restaurant is run by Pakistanis, so I was expecting a different type of curry
Most of my locals have been Bangladeshi places

The aroma from the carrier bag filled the car and that's always a very good sign
The food was really excellent
A clean fresh taste with a hint of ground cummin and fenugreek leaves
The vindaloo was really hot & brilliant
The madras full of flavour
The rhogan joshes were smothered in fried garlic and tasty
I would definitely use them again
They aren't the best I've had, but they are pretty good
At the moment, I don't know anywhere that is better

#6
Arjee Bhajee
07805579624
Crowthorne Gardens
Nottingham
NG5 5AQ

I've had meals twice from this place and they are absolutely amazing
It's not "back to the eighties" but it's the next best thing
I had almost given up hope of finding anywhere good, since Bombay Style on Alfreton Road closed.
We had paneer rhogan josh, veg vindaloo,veg phall and garlic coriander naan.
I made the special rice & mushroom rice ,using the Viceroy recipes which are absolutely fantastic
Check those recipes out they are world class.
You can watch again and again to see all detail
I used East End madras curry powder for the spice mix

All the bought curries had a wonderful aroma, and a similar underlying flavour
So they have a brilliant curry gravy!
The rhogan josh was so garlicky (lovely)
the vindaloo had a good heat and subtle spicing
and the phall had the extra heat, I so love
It came to just over ?12
The last time I spent money so worthwhile, was went I ordered from them before
If they are near you, try them out
You won't be sorry



#7
Lets Talk Curry / Death of the Taste
August 21, 2012, 09:29 AM
I can honestly say that I don't know where to buy an indian takeaway that still has "the taste"
There has been a sudden change of old places being taken over, or new places coming along
The whole flavour of curries has changed
They are generally bland and some are only equal to the flavour of a supermarket curry sauce

The final nail in the coffin, was the closing of the takeaway Bombay Style, on Alfreton Road
All the old school chefs are gone

I used to drive myself crazy at why my curries were sub standard taste
Well, now the're not
But for all the wrong reasons

I'm still trying "new" places, perhaps luck will favour me in re finding my curry nirvana
But the classic takeaway scene is clearlyly vanishing
Ironically, I would guess it's from improving hygene standards

Well perhaps life will be longer due to these changes
Longer but not richer
I remember eating cold classic curry for breakfast
I have even thrown "new" curry away

I live in Nottingham
Does anyone know of anywhere that still does the old business?
#8
Full Size Curry Gravy

There were no excuses left, but plenty of unproved theories
Years of failure, finally required some ghosts, to be laid to rest

I have a really large stainless steel cook pot
I begged it, off a chef, a few years ago
It cost nothing
One handle is loose, so it can?t be lifted when hot and full, and there is no lid
I have to use a lid, from a wok

I have a second hand BIR gas hob

What held me back for years, was the fear of cooking a curry gravy to a wrong recipe
I didn?t want that level of wastage, without justification

Last year I got into the kitchens, of a local Indian Restaurant kitchen
I was shown twice, in detail, how they make the Curry Gravy
I also saw various stages of the gravy, being cooked, on several other occasions
One thing became clear, the only random element, is the oil used
Sometimes this would be the oil from the chip fryer
Sometimes the oil from cooking poppadoms
Sometimes from oil from cooking poppadoms first and then onion bhajees
I never saw fresh used

Although this experiment is clearly excessive, it was fairly cheap too
Two 4 kg bags of onions cost ?1.98, Poppadoms ?7.60, Oil  ?2, pepper, carrots, chick peas & tomatoes about ?3
So ?15 to prove, or disprove a point
And hopefully some first class curries with gravy to freeze

I began, on Friday evening


I roughly chopped 8kg of onions to nearly fill the large saucepan
I added 2 carrots, 1 green pepper, 1 400g can of chick peas, 2 400g cans of tomatoes & enough water to bring the level to half way up the pot

The pot was brought  to the boil then simmered covered for two hours
(using my antique Ken Hom wok lid)

Meanwhile, I heat 1 ? litres of ktc veg oil, in Ken?s large wok
I cooked 60 poppadoms

Yes, this is where you start questioning how far, you can go.

I saved 20, the rest were crunched & binned
After 30 poppadoms, were cooked, the oil seemed to lose it?s heat
It required turning the gas up, to increase it?s temperature
I had planned to cook the whole pack of 100
But the oil was clearly getting past it?s best

After the oil had cooled, I poured the oil into a pyrex jug
There was only a litre left
The aroma was (unsurprisingly) poppadoms and it was very cloudy

I waited until the next day to continue the recipe, because that?s what the restaurant did
So bright and breezy, on Saturday morning, I continued
I reheated the pot of onions and simmered for another hour
Then I added 1 chef spoon of turmeric & 1 ? chef spoons of salt.
I simmered it another ten minutes, then blended
Now, that was a job and a half!
It took about ten minutes to get to a fine consistency

I heated the litre of poppadom oil and added 3 chef spoons of garlic ginger puree, 400g of tomato puree and gently folded the purees together in the pan, as it rose to a simmer
After five minutes I added 3 chef spoons of spice mixture (coriander,cumin,paprika,madras powder,turmeric)
After a couple of minutes the spices stopped fizzing and I added the oil into the pureed onion pot.
I stirred everything really well, for a couple of minutes

The recipe was nearly complete
All that was needed was to simmer the pot until the oil separated again.
This took another hour and red oil, rose to the top, of the gravy

At the end of cooking the gravy really looked the part, but didn?t smell right
Maybe I had been overexposed to spices
I honestly don?t know

Anyhow, a couple of hours later I used some, to cook a recipe shown me by the author of this gravy

Tarka Dhall
I heated some fresh oil (in my BIR pan) and added 1 ? chef spoons of precooked lentils (They are simply boiled with a little turmeric)
Stir this all round for a couple of minutes, until the mixture dries out
Then I added 1 desertspoon of spice mixture, 1 teaspoon fenugreek leaves and ? teaspoon of salt
Stir this round the pan for a couple of minutes, scraping the pan
It does stick!
Add 2 ladles of curry gravy and simmer/reduce for five minutes.
In another pan, on a low heat, I added a little oil
Into this I put 3 sliced cloves of garlic and a desertspoon of chopped fresh coriander.
I stir fried this for about three minutes, so the garlic was just turning brown at the edges
It?s not wanted dark brown, and is easily burnt!
At this stage I poured the garlic oil, over the lentils
Tarka Dhall ready!

The curry was good
Probably as good as ones I had bought from the restaurant
My wife loved it
But in no way had I made any quantum leap, with my cooking
No extra fantastic flavor appeared
I would conclude that , cooking in quantity, doesn?t affect the gravy outcome
I would also conclude that my wheely bin stinks of crushed poppadoms and old onion skins

I shall freeze a couple of litres of gravy, and who knows, when I thaw it out, the curry fairies may have worked their magic







#10
Lets Talk Curry / Zaal Phaal
April 07, 2012, 07:33 PM
Sorry, but I couldn't find the original post to add to

A while ago, I cooked a chicken phaal, as per the Fleet demo
I used the Fleet base too

At the time I thought it was ok, but nothing special, and froze it

Here we are, about two months later, and I heated the frozen curry up
OH MY GOSH!!

Absolutely amazing!!
Had it matured, was it better than I thought?
Goodness knows!

But I ate a bought curry alongside the phaal
The bought curry was from "The Red Chilli", which is a really really good Nottingham takeaway
I reckon the Fleet Phaal was as good
Thanks for the recipe, folks
I'll be doing base and curry again!!
Maybe I just need to cook a few months ahead of when I eat
#11
We had a takeaway from Red Chilli
I've never tried this place before, but what a surprise
The food was amazing
Just enough oil and bursting with flavour
We had:-
Vegetable Madras
Lovely chilli buzz withan excellent background flavour
Vegetables just cooked but left a little "crispy"
A touch of garam masala definitely used

Vegetable Makhani
Absolutely fantastic
Full of garlic, fresh coriander, carefully spiced, lovely gravy and with an aroma to knock your socks off
I've never even heard of this curry before, but will get it again
This is how curries should be
It has that extra something that lifts it above all other foods
If I could cook like this, I would have this every day, for the rest of my life
(perhaps a slight exageration)

Saag Aloo Paneer
Marvelous side dish
I think it was frozen spinach
It was very finely cut, anyhow
The paneer cubed and fried
The whole curry was with just enough gravy, but not swimming
A lovely garlicky, salty spicey affair
Very nice

We also had three poppadoms
They were fresh and crispy

The whole lot came to ?20.50
I was very impressed

#12
Vindaloo / Chicken Vindaloo demo 2012
February 28, 2012, 08:11 AM
Chicken Vindaloo

After all the excitement of the Zaal demo, I was keen to see more cooking myself.
I called into a takeaway that I have been visiting for 5 years and was taken into the kitchen for a chat
They had just bought pizza making equipment, so there was quite a buzz of excitement, even though it was a quiet evening
I saw a chicken vindaloo cooked
Vindaloo round here, is not a hot curry

A chef 10 years back, was puzzled by my ?takeaway?curiousity
He showed me a vindaloo, being cooked by him
A slightly different recipe, but essentially the same
Anyhow, here I was 10 years on, still not mastering this ?simple? recipe
Still mesmerised by each ingredient & technique
In my heart I now know, that if tried at home, it will be met with disappointment and wonder
But that doesn't stop me

Tonight the chef had precooked chicken
This had been made, in a very similar way to Zaal
Too close, to bother re writing the recipe
I?ve posted it before, somewhere on this site, anyhow
The gravy is made with boiled onion, a little garam masala, salt and chip/bhajee oil.
After an hour and a half, a chef spoon of spice mix is added, it?s brought back to the boil then pureed.
It?s used for the next few days and improves in flavour
I?m sure you get the picture
It?s nothing new
Ok so chef heated a chef spoon of oil from the chip pan
He added half a teaspoon of garlic ginger puree and fried until just turning brown.
He whisked the pan away from the heat, and added half a chef spoon of spice mix and a chef?s spoon of tomato puree (white tower and straight from the can)
Then he added half a cup full of cold water
Back on the heat and he reduced this down until you could see the oil coming through.
In goes the precooked chicken, with a quick stir.
Then in goes a couple of ladles, of curry gravy
Bring to the boil and simmer for five minutes
Serve
Ridiculously simple & ridiculously tasty
I think a demo such as this highlights the different methods used by different places.
There is no right or wrong
But if it tastes good??.buy some more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#13


I deep fried some paneer and made a korma
I actually bought some St Ivel uht cream, to do it!!
I got loads left over, how long does it keep?
Most products say consume after so many days from opening, but this says nothing
All it offers is  "it will perform best if chilled from the refrigerator"

I had a bash at the paratha's that someone posted
They are filled with mouli, coriander, cummin,salt and chilli
A little bland, but enjoyable

And lastly I cooked a few naans, using my pizza maker
It cooks the base too quickly, so you need to grill the top on the stove
I like the look of UB & CBM's tava naans
But that's for another day
#14
Jalfrezi / Prawn Jalfrezi
November 06, 2011, 07:29 PM
I spend quite a bit of time in takeaway kitchens
I always feel bad when I post their recipes
Somehow I betrayed their trust
Here comes some guilt:-

Prawn Jalfrezi

Heat 4  tablespoons of fresh oil and fry
Quarter Sliced onion, 3 chopped green chilli,1 teaspoon garlic ginger, 1 desertspoon mix, 1 teaspoon fenugreek leaves, ? teaspoon chilli, ? teaspoon salt
Dry fry for a minute stirring constantly

Rinse the frozen prawns in cold water and squeeze them
Deep fry for a minute (yes deep fry)

Add to the frying pan and stir in for a minute then add two ladles of curry gravy
Fry for 8 minutes to get thickness of sauce right

Near the end of cooking deep fry sliced onion, red pepper and ? tomato for a minute
Add this to frying pan and cook on a few more minutes
Serve

The curry gravy is made of nearly all onion, with a tarka added after pureeing
It's very runny, like a cup of tea
#15
I got the book
A penny shy of 4 pounds and well worth it
The author replies very quickly and is helpfull

I don't want to ruin Abdul's business by revealing precise recipes
If anybody is a real curry fan, they won't think twice, about spending so little money

So without revealing any exact details:-
I made the base and guess what?
No garlic ginger in it but quite a few chillies
Does it suffer from that?
Not at all!!
I double checked the salt quantities with Abdul
It's right
But DON'T add any more when you make the curries

I made two curries Korma and Saag Aloo
I was really surprised that the Korma wasn't at all salty
Just a very good balance of flavours
And my oh my!! you should catch the aroma when it cooked
Absolutely fantastic
I am no big Korma fan, but this was good
A tad sweet perhaps, but worth a repeat performance
Over the years I have seen many Kormas cooked and this is identical to several demos I have had
One of the simplest curries to make
No extra spice, garlic or pepper

The Saag Aloo was was very tasty but lacked that extra BIR flavour
A shame because the texture, ratio of sauce and everything else was brilliant
It looked perfect
Perhaps it will be better today
You know what it's like, after you been cooking curry for hours
So buy the book and it will bring you one small step closer!
Perhaps with his Webcam service, we may get 100%


#16
Well actually it's a takeaway, not a restaurant
But it's brilliant
I ordered for the whole family
We had:_
Madras
Vindaloo
Rhogan Josh
Punjabee
& rice
It took 25 minutes to cook

The curries were all excellent, and the Punjabee nearly took our heads off
There were sliced and whole chillies in it, but it was still full of flavour
The Rhogan Josh has a large blob of cooked garlic paste, on top of it
Very garlicky, mild, and a beautiful aroma
The madras was just what you'd hope for
A thick sauce with a chilli kick, tomatoey, garlickey and very moorish
and last but not least the Vindaloo
Round here, that's just a standard curry (but a very good one)

All the curries had a slight garam masala taste to them, and a real freshness
The rice was a little unusual
It was a bright yellow, from food colour
But all the spices had been removed
You can buy the curries separate, to the rice
So if you wanted to cut costs, by using some homemade rice, you could
Excellent all round food and "I'll be back" most definitely

#17
Lets Talk Curry / Things I Can Do
December 07, 2010, 07:26 PM
I've been reviewing all the recipes I've saved from this forum, and kitchen demos.
I've got so many books as well
I'm totally happy with the samosas I make
The same goes for Onion Bhajees, Pakoras, Naans, Tikka and Rice
But without going to the extremes of getting old used oil from a takeaway, I can't make a basic curry sauce as well as I want
I know this discussion has been well covered, but I don't believe it can be done at home.
Even JB with a personal BIR lesson, seemed dissapointed with his results.
I still spend hours on "failed" attempts.
Has anyone got exactly what they were after?
It's six years since we started here
I don't think I've really got any closer, than my Bengal Cuisine demo
At least that takes only about twenty minutes to make
And what about Curry King's home demo?
There are other good recipes here too
But how much time do you want to dedicate to a substandard end result?
When you put your curry next to a bought one, it's not as good
Is it?
#18
Has anybody else bought this?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0716022354/ref=oss_product
It's an interesting read, and includes BIR recipes too
I've just made the garlic mushrooms
They were really nice
The book even has a donner kebab recipe
#19
Lets Talk Curry / Low Flame
October 28, 2010, 06:37 PM
I called round two BIR kitcens this week
I watched a curry cooked in both
The gas flame was really low for the whole procedure
I know, I bought a BIR hob in the belief, that it would get the flavour I couldn't achieve
I don't think it's neccesary
The most important thing, I noticed, was the initial slow fry of sliced onions and green peppers
#20
Does oil in a pan ,heated by gas, get hotter than a deep pan fryer?
I have tried two deep pan fryers set to 190 degrees (maximum heat), and none of them bubble or cook as quickly as a chip pan
I would say, that a chip pan, can almost half the cooking time
Is this something wrong  with my bought deep pan fryers, or is there a difference?
I tried cooking a poppadom too
It didn't puff straight away and gave a  very greasy result in the deep pan fryer