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The discussion revolves around the use of homemade chicken stock in curry bases, with varying opinions on whether to incorporate stock cubes or pots into the process. Some participants argue against adding stock cubes to homemade stock, believing it undermines the flavor achieved from the fresh ingredients, while others suggest that using a stock pot can enhance the dish without compromising quality. A consensus emerges that while homemade stock is preferred, the addition of a well-chosen stock pot can be beneficial, particularly if the homemade stock lacks seasoning.

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Offline Derek Dansak

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the homemade chicken soup experiment (with base)
« on: March 14, 2013, 09:22 AM »
Thought my latest experiment should be posted as the results were promising.

initially made chicken soup as dad did when i was a nipper !

chicken carcus,   2 onion 2 celery  2 carrot   left whole

water to cover  salt  oil  knorr chicke stock cube

boil for an hour  then sieve  , so all that remains is soup

I then experimented adding 2 -3 tbs or more to a small portion of base  before making madras

the result was a very meaty savoury taste similar but not identical to illusive bir taste.
Next time i would make the soup more dilute and remove more fat from the soup.

my conclusion was that part of the missing 5%   has to be down to good chicken stock added to base.
Adding a little stock to the base during base prep would also seem the next step to try

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Re: the homemade chicken soup experiment (with base)
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2013, 11:44 AM »
I really don't like the idea of adding stock cubes to a stock! although making a base with stock is definitely something I'm going to try soon.
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Re: the homemade chicken soup experiment (with base)
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2013, 03:09 PM »
Likewise, what is the point of extracting all that goodness and flavour from the carcass and veg only to mask it off with a salty stock cube. Don't get me wrong, cubes are fine but not, imho, to add to a home made stock. One or tother for me.  :D
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Offline Peripatetic Phil

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Re: the homemade chicken soup experiment (with base)
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2013, 03:11 PM »
Yes and no.  I would not add a stock cube to home-made chicken stock, but I would, and do, as a matter of course, add a Knorr Chicken Stock Pot.

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Offline StoneCut

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Re: the homemade chicken soup experiment (with base)
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2013, 03:11 PM »
Hhhm, most stock cubes contain MSG and other flavour enhancers. IMHO, that might be a pretty good thing to try out.
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Re: the homemade chicken soup experiment (with base)
« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2013, 03:19 PM »
A lot of people (including me) think that MSG doesn't work well with BIR curries.

Check out the low salt Kallo stock cubes, no MSG:

http://www.planetorganic.com/kallo-organic-very-low-salt-chicken-stock-cubes.html

You are then free to add as much salt as you think necessary.

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Re: the homemade chicken soup experiment (with base)
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2013, 03:21 PM »
Quote from: Phil [Chaa006] on March 14, 2013, 03:11 PM
Yes and no.  I would not add a stock cube to home-made chicken stock, but I would, and do, as a matter of course, add a Knorr Chicken Stock Pot.

Agreed, I find the Knorr Stock Pot range very good indeed. :)
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Re: the homemade chicken soup experiment (with base)
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2013, 03:28 PM »
Quote from: Axe on March 14, 2013, 03:21 PM
Quote from: Phil [Chaa006] on March 14, 2013, 03:11 PM
Yes and no.  I would not add a stock cube to home-made chicken stock, but I would, and do, as a matter of course, add a Knorr Chicken Stock Pot.

Agreed, I find the Knorr Stock Pot range very good indeed. :)

I agree but still do not see the point of adding to a home made stock which if done right should be bursting with flavour already.  ;) if it needs a stock cube then you may as well save the effort and just use the cube.
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Re: the homemade chicken soup experiment (with base)
« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2013, 03:38 PM »
Quote from: RubyDoo on March 14, 2013, 03:28 PM
I agree but still do not see the point of adding to a home made stock which if done right should be bursting with flavour already.  ;) if it needs a stock cube then you may as well save the effort and just use the cube.

I agree with that too, but from what I read of DD's OP was that his stock is not seasoned and does not contain a boquet garnie, so the stock cube would actually balance the finished stock in this case.

Just a thought. :)
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Re: the homemade chicken soup experiment (with base)
« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2013, 03:53 PM »
Ok.  ;)
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