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The discussion revolves around the use of green cardamom pods in curry dishes, with participants sharing their regional experiences and preferences. While some members from South London incorporate cardamom pods into various mains, others from regions like Manchester and Merseyside report that they are rarely found in their curries, often only appearing in rice dishes. The community acknowledges a significant regional variation in the use of cardamom, with some preferring to use the seeds instead of whole pods for better flavor integration. Overall, the consensus highlights that the inclusion of cardamom pods in mains is indeed a regional preference, with differing opinions on their desirability and usage.

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Offline telecaster445

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cardamon pods when to use
« on: November 05, 2010, 05:49 PM »
I noticed that few recipes on these boards seem to include green cardamon pods in the mains. My local TA will often leave a couple of the chaps in Bhunas and Dupiazas. ( I'm used to fishing them out).

Is this a regional (South london) thing? In what context do members suggest their use (rice excluded)?
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Re: cardamon pods when to use
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2010, 05:56 PM »
Quote from: telecaster445 on November 05, 2010, 05:49 PMIs this a regional (South london) thing? In what context do members suggest their use (rice excluded)?
I lightly crush them and add them to most dishes (most dishes with a sauce, that is, not dry dishes such as tandoori chicken); but then I love them, and my wife hates them, so she always complains.  (She's Vietnamese/Chinese, so not used to our South London ways !).
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Re: cardamon pods when to use
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2010, 06:06 PM »
Hi TC,

In these parts (The Red Republic of Mancunia) we rarely find cardamoms in anything but pilau rice.

With that said, it is quite common to use them in a base, as an infusion, along with star anise, cassia bark, bay leaf and cloves but I think this lends itself more toward 'Balti' than BIR.

Hope that helps.

Ray :)
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Re: cardamon pods when to use
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2010, 08:49 PM »
Quote from: telecaster445 on November 05, 2010, 05:49 PM
I noticed that few recipes on these boards seem to include green cardamon pods in the mains...Is this a regional (South london) thing?

Oh that's interesting tc. I always used to get whole spices in my curries, cardamoms included, when I lived in London (Notting Hill Gate some 30 years ago!) but as I gradually migrated North they disappeared.

I thought they were just disappearing as times moved on and tastes changed but it's good to know that some still include them.

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Re: cardamon pods when to use
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2010, 08:35 AM »
Quote from: telecaster445 on November 05, 2010, 05:49 PM
In what context do members suggest their use (rice excluded)?

i've not seen any clear guidance of best practise at frying stage.

i tried recently adding with the oil before the g/g ginger. it did not sit well with how they taste in BIR (still a dryness). i use them in base but as whole items have rarely let them bypass the blending (once by error).

going fwd i'm probably going to drop a few in the finished base. alternatively will add to base using spice ball. if you don't use a spice ball or equivalent methods then this is the 1st port of call.
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Re: cardamon pods when to use
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2010, 10:57 AM »
I break the pods open and use the seeds in a dopiaza....I just add them to the spices and fry off after caremelising the onions then the g&g then in with the spices then base (if I'm using one).
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Re: cardamon pods when to use
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2010, 06:18 PM »
Hi

In these parts - the hamp-of-shire - we like to add thrice or so in with our potatoes when we are boiling them for our saag aloo etc.

We often allow one or more to escape into the main dish too, like one of our favourite restaurants likes to do.

Really p*ssed the wife off too, when she bites into one unexpected ;) - but I love them :)
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Re: cardamon pods when to use
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2010, 10:14 PM »
These days I add them to hot oil, very hot oil, with other solid spices. I'm not too keen on biting into too many however.
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Re: cardamon pods when to use
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2010, 05:42 AM »
I've never found whole spices in a curry in God's country (Merseyside). Like you said it must be a regional thing.
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Re: cardamon pods when to use
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2010, 08:34 AM »
Quote from: Domi on November 06, 2010, 10:57 AM
I break the pods open and use the seeds

Domi,

i have this on my mind to try. so far i have only used them whole and added to the oil with the g/g. with hindsight i felt this early frying was not what is needed to produce the sort of soft taste experience in BIR (clearly these whole pods come through from base cooking - added post blending).

it sounds from your post that frying the seeds makes a difference in terms of getting more taste than frying them whole. i will certainly give it a try.

do you have a feel for how much more flavour is obtained - is it x2 for example.
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