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Offline George

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I asked copilot AI about dhansak
« on: June 28, 2024, 07:51 PM »
The response was not bad but there's no mention of roasted ingredients such as garlic, chillies and some spices.

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What ingredients give dhansak its special flavour, as served in British Indian restaurants and take aways?

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Dhansak, a delightful curry often found in British Indian restaurants and takeaways, has a unique flavor profile. Let’s explore what makes it special:

Origins and Variations:
The British Indian restaurant (BIR) version of dhansak is inspired by the traditional Parsi dhansak.
Parsi dhansak typically features goat or mutton and is served with brown rice. It also includes a variety of vegetables like pumpkin, aubergine (eggplant), and potato in the sauce1.
In contrast, the curry house-style dhansak is simpler but still retains the sweet and sour essence of the original.

Flavor Components:
Lentils: Dhansak incorporates lentils into the sauce. These lentils contribute to its rich texture and earthy flavor.
Sweetness: To achieve the sweet element, pineapple juice and sometimes actual pineapple pieces are added. The pineapple juice is essential, even if you skip the fruit chunks.
Tartness: Lemon juice and tamarind provide the tartness, balancing the sweetness.
Spices: A blend of spices, including chilli powder, adds depth and warmth to the curry.
Chicken or Meat: While chicken dhansak is popular, the original Parsi version uses goat or mutton.

Cooking Process:
To create an authentic BIR-style chicken dhansak, follow these steps:
Base Curry Sauce: Prepare a base curry sauce (which can be used for various curries) by simmering onions, garlic, ginger, and tomatoes until smooth.
Pre-cook Chicken: Pre-cook the chicken separately to enhance flavor and speed up the final cooking process.
Combine Ingredients: Add lentils, lemon juice, pineapple juice, and spices to the base sauce. Adjust flavors to your liking.

Serve: Pair your chicken dhansak with plain or flavored Basmati rice, naan, chapatis, chutneys, and poppadoms.

Taste Profile:
Chicken dhansak is often served mildly spiced, but you can adjust the heat level by adding more chilli powder.
The flavors are a delightful medley of sweet, tart, and savory notes.
Remember, while the BIR-style dhansak isn’t exactly like its Parsi counterpart, it remains a beloved curry with a unique blend of flavors. Enjoy it with friends, family, and perhaps a refreshing beer! 🍛🍍🌶️

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Re: I asked copilot AI about dhansak
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2024, 11:52 AM »
When I saw the title thought it was going to be about Al's Kitchen.  Haven't had a Dhansak in years George.  Good idea, reckon I will give one a go.  Crikey I think the last one I had was about 10 years ago.  CBM's recipe.  A Balti dhansak is certainly doable.  Now on my list.

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Re: I asked copilot AI about dhansak
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2024, 03:12 PM »
that's not too bad an explanation. Not a recipe per se, but I feel like it would explain dhansak enough for someone who hasn't eaten one to understand what they're getting.

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Re: I asked copilot AI about dhansak
« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2024, 03:38 PM »
I wonder where the text comes from. Possibly from this forum, given the expression BIR! Another observation is the importance attached to adding pineapple juice when I'm fairly sure 95% of BIRs add sugar and no pineapple juice,


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Re: I asked copilot AI about dhansak
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2024, 07:03 PM »
I decided to try again. It's good how Copilot understood my conditions so I think AI shows some potential. I'm not sure about the recipe, though. It doesn't even use base sauce.

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I know about base sauce, the sweet and sour aspects and Parsi origins fior Dhansak so please don't bore me with those details. But how can I create a dhansak as good as the best restaurants in the UK?
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Certainly! Let’s dive straight into creating a restaurant-quality Dhansak that rivals the best UK establishments. I’ll skip the basics and focus on the key steps to elevate your home-cooked Dhansak:

Chicken Dhansak Recipe
Ingredients:
2 tbsp vegetable oil
8 boneless, skinless chicken thighs
1 medium onion
3 garlic cloves
1 thumb-sized piece of ginger
1 tbsp tomato puree
1 tsp curry powder (madras curry powder if available)
1 tsp chilli powder (adjust to taste)
1 tbsp lemon juice
1 green chilli (optional, for extra heat)
100ml pineapple juice
1/2 tsp salt
1x 400ml can of chopped tomatoes
200g split red lentils
Instructions:
Cook the Lentils:
Rinse the lentils until the water runs clear.
Add them to a saucepan, cover with water, and boil for about 15 minutes or until soft. Drain and set aside.
Sauté the Aromatics:
Chop the onion into bite-sized pieces.
Heat oil in a deep-sided pan or wok over medium heat.
Add the onion and cook for 5 minutes until lightly browned.
Add Chicken and Flavorings:
Add the chopped chicken thighs, grated ginger, and minced garlic.
Stir and cook for 7 minutes until the chicken is no longer pink.
Season and Spice:
Sprinkle in the curry powder and chilli powder.
Stir to coat the chicken evenly and cook for 2 more minutes.
Create the Sauce:
Add tomato puree, water, sugar, and pineapple juice.
Stir to combine, then add the canned tomatoes.
Bring to a boil and simmer for 10 minutes.
Incorporate Lentils:
Add the pre-cooked, drained lentils to the sauce.
Simmer for an additional 5 minutes.
Final Touch:
Stir in a handful of torn coriander leaves.
Taste and adjust seasoning with salt if needed.
Serve:
Pair your Chicken Dhansak with fragrant Basmati rice, naan bread, and perhaps some homemade bhajis for a complete meal.
Remember, the secret lies in balancing the sweet, sour, and savory flavors. Adjust the spice level to your preference, and you’ll have a delightful Dhansak that rivals the best UK restaurants! 🍛🌶️🇬🇧

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Re: I asked copilot AI about dhansak
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2024, 08:40 AM »
It didn't "understand" anything, George — AI as we currently know it is incapable of understanding anything.  What it did was to use your prompt to constrain and focus its response — nothing more, nothing less.
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