Topic: Why we cannot produce that missing taste ?

[Cory Ander]

Hi Lorrydo,

Yes, I believe many people here have Lorrydo.  Why do you ask?

As far as I'm aware, there are no "real secret curry recipes" there and no one seems to be able to reproduce the BIR "taste, smell and appearance" using the recipes there.

You might want to check out this thread to see what some people say about it:  http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/curry/index.php?topic=1892.0

[lorrydoo]

Thanks CA, I actually read those posts last night and was shocked to hear that Andy is connected to several secret recipe sites with alleged insider information.  I must admit I became suspicious when reading some of Andy's replies to questions on the site and how they were often contradictory. 

That sort of thing doesn't inspire confidence.  I agree that the BIR smell and taste is unobtainable and it has become something of an obsession for me to try and recreate it.   At the moment I am struggling with chicken stock.  This is definitely present in all BIR curries I have tasted (Madras, vindaloo) and no stock cube to date have come close to giving that genuine chicken flavour.  The BIRs must boil whole chickens and somehow amplify the remaining stock and then the sauce is built up from this somehow.  I have reduced chicken stock into both white and brown concentrated stocks and added it to my curries with MSG and while it gave a moorish taste to the curries, it didn't give a chicken flavour for some reason.

It is very frustrating but there must be a way to get close at home.  What recipe have you found that is the closest and best so I can give it a try.

Many thanks,

Lorrydoo.

[lorrydoo]

By the way, it seems that Darth is a moderator on Andy's site, does this mean he has defected?

[Cory Ander]

As far as I'm aware, Darth hasn't been on either site for quite some time (several weeks) now.  Maybe he's finally found the "taste" and "smell" elixir and has decided to keep it to himself. 

By the way, I didn't actually say that I think the BIR smell and taste is unobtainable at home (I believe/know it is).  I said that, as far as I'm aware, it seems it hasn't been obtained by anyone on that site using the recipes posted there 

[Swampy61]

Lorrydoo,

Let's stick to curry making and drop the sniping!
It has no place here or there.

This post is about "the missing taste" and I agree with CA that it may not be possible to get that at home, but if we can get close than we'll all be happy.

Swampy

[Cory Ander]

But Guys!  I said I believe (know) it IS obtainable at home!  ;D 

[Curry King]

Lorrydoo,

If your experimenting with chicken stocks have you read the Petes chicken jelly thread?

I'll have a look for it and post a link back.

Here it is:
http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/curry/index.php?topic=203.0

[Swampy61]

Sorry CA

Misread your comment there.

I feel that I'm getting closer to the smell of a BIR, and the family certainly think the taste is there.

Swampy

[Cory Ander]

No worries Swampy....I think I was guilty of using too many double negatives! 

[lorrydoo]

Thanks for the link CK, I will give it a try.

CA, you seem very sure that the BIR taste is obtainable at home.  Given that you are one of the most knowledgeable chefs on either site, your claim must be taken seriously.  Therefore, have you come close to achieving what seems to be unachievable?

Swampy, I agree sniping will get us nowhere but being led down the garden path wont achieve much either.  But like you say we have a common goal and if and when I get any info that might help our cause, I will post it on here.