Topic: Copying a Bir, some points.

[DARTHPHALL]

Glad this has made members post (as i suspected it would & that was the intention  ).
The idea behind this post was to get you peeps telling me your opinions so that we could collate them all & make a more precise & usefull thread with a collection of good solid points & guidelines in one clear thread to help new & old members in "The Quest"!
Thanks & keep posting , the more the merrier  ;D.

[Chilli Prawn]

As I have said in my other response Woks Up this is about ideas and opinions so that we can create something of a reference standard for one and all.  I suspect it is your use  of words and phraseology that gets my back up, sorry but words like illogical and irrelevant or totally disagree, are not suitable for me.  I have the same respect for newbies opinions as well as the experienced as we all have something to contribute, and that includes you.

I have moved to the Dark Side 

CP

[DARTHPHALL]

It is the only way my young apprentice  & together we can end this destructive conflict & bring order...AHEM sorry  :-[ ;D

[Woks Up]

......this is about ideas and opinions.....I suspect it is your use  of words and phraseology that gets my back up, sorry but words like illogical and irrelevant or totally disagree, are not suitable for me.....

.....Oh dear oh dear!!!   

....and...errr...I don't recall using the word "irrelevant"...did I?  No matter!  It's probably irrelevant anyway! 

[Chilli Prawn]

 ;D ;D ;D ;D OK, enough said and my toys are now back in the pram.  Lets get on with the mission........  erm what was it we were supposed to be doing :-[  Ok WoksUp?

CP :-[

[laynebritton]

Well Woks Up
It appears there aren't many things in this thread You do agree with 
have you been drinkin with the Snowdog ?

I have stated in earlier threads that an old friend of mine (Bangladeshi) had his own establishment but He NEVER used Ginger Or Garlic Paste he Always used Fresh  SO Your Wrong on that Count :

Garam Masalla OK I never seen him grind his own spices but that's gotta be up to the individual if You don't want to grind your own then Don't But there's No way on this earth will You or anyone else for that matter convince me that ready ground Garam Massala is better than freshly ground stuff 

The case for keeping your spices in the cupboard for months well that's again up to the individual but 50p to 60p for a 100g bag isn't gonna break the bank is it ? you can then rest assured your not using SawDust after spending the time and effort trying to produce a dish using inferior products.

I'm sorry to say Woks Up but I think you'll be chasing that dream of finding that Golden Egg for a long time with your Ideas.
  Layne

[Woks Up]

...it appears there aren't many things in this thread You do agree with...SO Your Wrong on that Count....But there's No way on this earth will You or anyone else for that matter convince me that ready ground Garam Massala is better than freshly ground stuff....I'm sorry to say Woks Up but I think you'll be chasing that dream of finding that Golden for a long time with your Ideas.

.....Oh dear, oh dear, Layne!!   

It seems that a number of us can't accept other's differing opinions without getting upset, defensive and personal about it!!! 

....How unfortunate is that!!!  :

....actually, I appear to have agreed with several things! 

....and I certainly never suggested that your Bangladeshi friend uses commercial garlic and ginger pastes!.....did I??   :

"you WILL conform Woks Up!"     ;D

[DARTHPHALL]

Or you could Give yourself to the Darkside! ;D
Failing that Cp & Layne could throw you into the Darkside naked & with child. ;D

[Curry King]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion and without debate and discussion we would go nowhere but Woks Up is pointing out info that we already know.  Do we really need another thread discussing each of our opinions on what BIR's do or not do.  Unless it's an actual first hand account it is just guess work, not all BIR's are the same anyway so a list of, "I think they might use this" or "they might use that" is pointless.  

The things I believe to be certain about your average BIR are:

They use lots of oil, cheap oil.
They use powered spices not freshly ground.
Everything is reused and nothing is thrown away.

I've come to these conclusions from years of trying to emulate BIR's and talking to BIR staff.  The problem is I've had different info from two different chefs so what chance have we got  :

[George]

I reckon the most important factor behind being able to copy a BIR dish is having a good recipe which states accurate quantities and brands of ingredients, as well as clear instructions on how they are brought together. Anyone with a moderate grounding in basic cooking techniques should be able to follow a well written recipe and get the intended end result. If the result is bad, then the recipe is probably bad.

I'm not persuaded about the need for huge batches, nuclear-powered burners or the need for many years of skills training.

Regards
George