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Starters and Side Dishes Chat / Re: Doner kebab
« Last post by Peripatetic Phil on February 18, 2025, 01:45 PM »
No crunchy veg, mayo and hot sauce on a doner is like having a pork sausage without any mustard.
The norm for me.
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Or a bacon sarnie without HP sauce or tomato ketchup.
– ditto – (and without butter, of course).
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Fish & chips with no salt & vinegar.
Lemon on the fish, a little vinegar on some of the chips, but the remainder of the latter eaten with Heinz tomato ketchup ...
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Starters and Side Dishes Chat / Re: Doner kebab
« Last post by Kashmiri Bob on February 18, 2025, 01:17 PM »
LA diner much better, especially when pimped. Iceland probably the most realistic and greasy.

Hmmm, just tried LA Diner doner on your recommendation, Rob, but (IMHO) it lacks almost everything I would hope for in a good doner.  Quite apart from anything else, it (a) fail miserably to approach anything like eating temperature after 12 minutes at 200C in an oven as recommended, and (b) needed additional salt.  I'll may finish the pack up, but won't be in any hurry to do so.  Sorry.
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The oven is inadvisable for these ready mades Phil, imo. Defrost in the micro and straight into a pre-heated wok, with oil/fat and whatever else you takes your fancy. I quite like Blue Dragon sweet chilli & garlic.  Chopped fresh chillies and freshly ground black/timut pepper. Stir fry. I recall the Iceland Doner meat was your recommendation. Found it on the greasy side for me but tasted OK. The hob for this one too.

No crunchy veg, mayo and hot sauce on a doner is like having a pork sausage without any mustard. Or a bacon sarnie without HP sauce or tomato ketchup. Fish & chips with no salt & vinegar.  Each to their own though :)

Rob
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I miscounted - it was 7 drumsticks. Nothing which anyone with a good appetite would struggle to eat in one sitting imho

OMG.  I could manage two, and possibly a third, but that would be my absolute upper bound.  Whenever I order Southern fried chicken, I order two thighs and one drumstick, and that is more than sufficient ...  But I do think I need to try (a smaller version of) this recipe now that T63 has very kindly re-posted it.
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Traditional Indian Recipes / Re: Black Pepper Chicken with thanks to Anjum Anand
« Last post by tempest63 on February 17, 2025, 01:44 PM »
The recipe seems to have dropped off so I thought I would repost it

Black pepper chicken. Anjum Anand
Serves 6

Ingredients 
1kg chicken joints, skinned, with all visible fat removed and cleaned
3 tbsp vegetable oil
1 small onion, finely chopped
1-2 green chillies, pierced
5cm chunk of peeled ginger, cut into thin shreds
1 tbsp coriander powder
Salt, to taste
200ml water
1 tbsp black peppercorns, coarsely ground or to taste
½ tsp garam masala
2 tsp lemon juice
Two handfuls of fresh coriander, leaves and stalks, chopped

For the marinade
10g fresh ginger, peeled
30g garlic, peeled
1 tsp garam masala
1 chicken stock cube, dissolved in 3 tbsp hot water

Method
1 Make a paste of the ginger and garlic with the garam masala and chicken stock. Coat the chicken and marinate for as long as possible in the fridge – at least an hour.

2 Heat the oil in a non-stick saucepan. Add the onion and saute until brown – about 8 minutes. Add the green chillies, ginger, coriander powder and salt and cook for 30-40 seconds.

3 Add the chicken and sear on all sides, about 3-4 minutes. Add the water and black pepper and bring to a boil. Then lower the heat, cover, and simmer until the chicken is tender, around 20-30 minutes. Stir occasionally, adding splashes of hot water, if necessary.

4 Increase the heat and toss and turn the chicken in the gravy for a good 4-5 minutes to reduce the gravy to just a few tablespoons. Stir in the garam masala, lemon juice and the coriander, and serve.
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Starters and Side Dishes Chat / Re: Doner kebab
« Last post by Peripatetic Phil on February 17, 2025, 01:30 PM »
LA diner much better, especially when pimped. Iceland probably the most realistic and greasy.

Hmmm, just tried LA Diner doner on your recommendation, Rob, but (IMHO) it lacks almost everything I would hope for in a good doner.  Quite apart from anything else, it (a) fail miserably to approach anything like eating temperature after 12 minutes at 200C in an oven as recommended, and (b) needed additional salt.  I'll may finish the pack up, but won't be in any hurry to do so.  Sorry.
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Starters and Side Dishes Chat / Re: Doner kebab
« Last post by Kashmiri Bob on February 17, 2025, 12:31 PM »
Agree. Farm foods Jahan doner meat is awful.  LA diner much better, especially when pimped. Iceland probably the most realistic and greasy. Here is a detailed review of the LA Diner meat:

https://shawarmapolice.com/2017/08/04/farmfoods-l-a-diner-doner-meat/

TA doner kebabs seem to involve paying curry prices these days (£7-10) so not for me.  Can't go wrong with LA Diner. The stir fry sauces make it a bit like the Shazanz (Birmingham) Sherpur Doner.  Pretty good to be honest. Salad and a hot sauce etc is a must though. I am very proud of my sauce. Modelled on the hot sauce sachet that comes with a Bombay Bad Boy pot noodle. So, fairly hot and, importantly, super smooth with a hint of cumin.

Rob
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Starters and Side Dishes Chat / Re: Doner kebab
« Last post by peshwarinaan on February 16, 2025, 10:36 PM »
As beautiful as the dish looks, I find Farmfoods' doner meat tastes really terrible. Ditto for all the other supermarket ones I've tried (Iceland/Food Warehouse, Home Bargains, and two others from Farmfoods under the "Jahan" and "Speedy Chef" brands (both produced by Istanbul Doner which also produces catering doner)). I also bought a 5KG catering box of Ali Baba brand pre-cut doner and it was equally disappointing.

They all use mechanically separated chicken as the main ingredient which always tastes rotten to me.

Good doner should be lamb and/or beef. Only the cheap stuff uses chicken because it's dirt cheap.

In my experience if you want good doner at home you either have to make it yourself or buy from a known good takeaway.
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Starters and Side Dishes Chat / Re: Doner kebab
« Last post by curryhell on February 16, 2025, 04:32 PM »
Seeing that pic reminded me it's been far too long since I've indulged in such an artery clogging delight  :umy:   Handful of lettuce, a few slices of tomato and cucumbers all tossed with lashings of garlic mayo.  The absolute must is copious amounts of explosive home made scotch bonnet sauce spread over the donna.  May just have to get reacquainted with this in the week.
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Starters and Side Dishes Chat / Re: Doner kebab
« Last post by Kashmiri Bob on February 15, 2025, 12:26 PM »
Had two bottles of Duvel Blond last night Phil and misread antithesis as aesthetically pleasing :)

Onions, cabbage, chilli sauce and garlic mayo is the absolute minimum for a doner, imo.  Otherwise one may as well have bread & dripping. Garlic naan is a well-established upgrade.

Many moons ago, in Manchester, a friend suggested we get a doner kebab from a place he knew. It was a stingy little thing in pitta. We had been to the gym and would have had to go in to buy another, however I suggested a visit instead to Abdul's in Rusholme, for a proper kebab. Doner was available, but we went with lamb tikka kebabs on garlic naan, with all the trimmings. All my friend could say was that he was coming here from now on.

For this one I used a Leicester Bakery plain naan, trimmed to fit my tawa. Lashed with garlic butter. Still, a miserable excuse for a naan, albeit a ready-made. Got a few reduced price (20 p) from a local shop though. Made me smile that these naans are exactly what we got from most of the Rusholme curry houses back in the day. Pre-tandoor oven times and, on reflection, they were quite awful. When a garlic naan was ordered it was still one of these dire efforts, but with garlic salt sprinkled on top. The mains were often magnificent, so it didn't matter so much. Later learned that Abdul's was one of the first places to get a tandoor.

Rob
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Starters and Side Dishes Chat / Re: Doner kebab
« Last post by Peripatetic Phil on February 14, 2025, 10:28 PM »
I find your photograph fascinating, Rob, because it is the very antithesis of what I want in a doner.  For me, a pitta bread, a good filling of doner meat, and a sprinkling of Greek (flat leaf) parsley if available is all I want or need — anything more detracts from the very "donerness" that I seek.  But each to his own, of course, and as that is clearly how you prefer it, enjoy !
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