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Bloody hell Stew, that's a bit harsh.

Yes it was wrong, yes it was annoying and yes he/she shouldn't have done it, but unless I've missed other similar posts this is the first time that it's been done. I thought the info was interesting and appropriate if posted in the right forum - and only once. Give the poor bugger the benefit of the doubt, issue an appropriate warning and then if/when they do it again ban them to hell and back.

I hope this isn't the shape of things to come, i.e. banning without warning.

YF
I support "Admin" here; I used the "Report to Moderator"  button on finding six instances of the same message, and I think that Admin's reaction was appropriate in the circumstances. It's very hard to imagine how it could have been an accident, or even the result of a misunderstanding, IMHO...

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Curry Base Chat / Re: Khris Dhillon curry gravy
« on: September 15, 2006, 12:03 PM »
Hmmm...paprika...interesting concept.... an ingredient that is used in central Europe & Spain but not often seen in Indian cooking . I have been a strong proponent of Bruce Edwards....but  do have my doubts - do you use hot or regular paprika . This would ultimately influence the dish....or would you be better served adding more chilies . Yet another indication of  how the end user has to both formulate and adjust recipes . Must admit that I have always omitted paprika and substituted chili powder . Chaa006 what  do you think ?
I use hot paprika if I have it, and standard otherwise; in both cases, the flavour of the raw spice is noticeably different to that of ground chillies, which are themselves difference to cayenne pepper and so on ...  I have a recipe for chicken piri-piri which requires both ground chillies and ground cayenne pepper (as well as ground ginger and ground black pepper), so I suspect it's not uncommon for a recipe to require two or more members of the same spice family in the same dish.

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Curry Base Chat / Re: Khris Dhillon curry gravy
« on: September 14, 2006, 11:31 PM »
I've always been a bit disappointed with kd's recipes...although doubling (at least) the quantities of spices he recommends does help a bit.....one thing I've never been sure of...are you supposed to blend the resulting green coloured water along with the boiled onions..or drain it and just blend the onions??
Blend everything : water, onions, ginger, garlic; the resulting liquid is the "Stage 2" sauce, in which you can pre-cook the chicken (with a little turmeric and some oil or ghee), and later go on to make the "Stage 3" sauce, adding oil, tomatoes, tomato puree, turmeric and paprika ...

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Stop using food coloring aaaaghh. :o
If you want Yellow use a little Turmeric, guaranteed to stain the insides of a Concrete Elephant !!! ;D ;D ;D
I always use egg yellow when making omelettes (esp. for Chinese fried rice), but to colour the Tandoori "yellow sauce" I gently cook a little turmeric in oil.  This takes the earthy edge off the flavour (which I otherwise find somewhat unpleasant) and deepens the colour slightly.  The sauce needs only a little turmeric, and the turmeric itself needs very brief cooking in non-too-hot oil ...

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Curry Base Chat / Re: Khris Dhillon curry gravy
« on: September 13, 2006, 06:48 PM »
Hello.

I have had the Khris Dhillon book for absolutely years, I guess since about '84 or so.  I made the curry gravy only yesterday but have not yet used it in a recipe.  Thing is, it just smells and tastes a bit bland and the recipes in the book don't look like they're going to hit the mark.

Anyone else found this or have any comments? ...

Well, I've posted twice in KD's defence, so clearly I believe his base has something to offer, but I also know that I no longer use his recipes "as written".  In general, I use twice as much sauce per unit of meat as he recommends, and twice as much spice per unit of sauce.  I also add other spices that he doesn't explicitly mention.  But I do think that his is an excellent starting point, and has the great merit that you aren't going to blow the roof off your mouth using his quantities of spices, so you are (IMHO) more likely to experiment thereafter rather than just give up ...

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Curry Base Chat / Re: Best Curry Base - POLL
« on: September 13, 2006, 06:41 PM »
... And where is Kris Dhillon's 'Curry Secret' recipe for base sauce? Surely, that one should be included in the poll ...
I second that.  It may be that all those that "Admin" selected are indeed better than Kris's, but there can be no doubt that Kris's does produce an authentic flavour, so surely deserves to be included.  My two penn'orth !

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... One change I will make in a future batch is to replace his "curry powder" in the "spice mix" with the Basaar Mix I have discovered recently which is a better quality than most curry powders ...
Yes, following up on Curry Canuck's reply to my earlier posting, I looked up Bruce's recipe, and was staggered to find that he includes "curry powder" amongst the ingredients :
Quote from: BruceEdwards
Bruce Edwards Curry Base

Spice Mixture

7 parts Ground Coriander
7 parts Turmeric
5 parts ground Cumin
4 parts Curry Powder
4 parts Paprika (optional)
Given the immense variability that exists amongst so-called "curry powders", and that I don't know a single person from the Indian sub-continent who admits to using "curry powder", I did feel that it cast some doubt on the authenticity of the recipe ...

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Just Joined? Introduce Yourself / Re: Hello to all !
« on: September 12, 2006, 06:02 PM »
... I've tried a lot of Pat Chapman recipes, that Curry secret book (which seemed so complicated, it felt like a wind up!) ...

I'm new to this forum (joined fifteen minutes ago !) but for me, Kris Dhillon's "The Curry Secret" was the most important find in over forty years of attempting to re-create the flavour of British Indian Restaurant curries.  I cannot recommend this book too highly.  Not only does his method enable home chefs to re-create that authentic, highly sought after, flavour, but it also (by partitioning the task into a number of discrete steps) enables the home chef to do well over 90% of the preparation in advance and to serve his/her guests with a freshly cooked curry within 30 minutes of their arrival.  I would add to this that my wife's recipe for pilau rice far surpasses anything I have ever been able to achieve, and between us we are now able to produce authentic BIR curries on demand  :-)  Now if only I could discover how to make authentic roti, I would be in seventh heaven !

As an aside, I now find that having learned Kris Dhillon's method, and gone on to experiment with different spices/quantities at the final stage, I now feel sufficiently confident to re-spice the remains of take-aways, and my wife (who is my severest critic !) is happy to admit that the re-spiced version is usually substantially better than the original.  Simply re-heating a left-over take-away in a microwave oven is very unsatisfactory : far better to heat some more ghee (I frequently use re-cycled ghee) in a wok, throw in the left-over curry, add a little water or stock, re-spice and serve.  Definitely worth a try, if you've only ever used a microwave oven to re-heat ...

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