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#1
Tried this yesterday absolute bir the ajwain completes the taste bomb.
Only addition was lemon juice freshly scrumped from my lemon tree.
A sure winner and go to from now on thanks Syed
#2
Lets Talk Curry / Anyone else noticed ?
April 29, 2020, 11:44 AM
How many old members from this forum are now all over social media with their methods and recipes
Some very popular selling books etc
One old members grandson is fronting a channel.
Nothing wrong with what happening and good luck to them.
Just very rare that they mention this site.
Observations thats all  :wink:
#3
Lets Talk Curry / Criticising recipes
March 26, 2020, 10:57 AM
Why is it that when a new member arrives and brings recipes for all to share they are criticised often by long standing members.
I believe its because they have not yet been able to satisfy themselves with the bir taste because of poor cooking technique, then they blame the recipes.
A bir chef who showed me a learning method which works to get bir flavours told me that " A good bir cook can get good results from a poor recipe but a bad cook will not get a good result from a good recipe.
Whats occuring with some here is frustration so only response is.
It must be the recipe

If I post the method I was taught on this forum will it be subjected to the same condemnation ? Yes I believe so
#4
Cooking Methods / pre cooked chicken easy way to go
February 11, 2020, 02:32 PM
Rather than pre cooking chicken then freezing thawing out etc.
Assuming a curry base sauce is used heat it up then add chicken portions cook for around 8 mins then remove
Cook curry as your normal method adding chicken in last 5 mins to finish off you will get succulent fresh chicken every time also works for other meats adjust cooking time as required
Saves a lot of faffing around.
Try it out and lets have your comments
#5
Cooking Methods / tomato powder
December 19, 2019, 10:05 AM
tomato powder has for me been my go to when cooking final curry.
It has to be mixed with water which is quite simple ....over the years I have tried most purees and pasatas which have to. be stored in the fridge........usually with unwanted added sugar and salt seeds etc.....seeds can quite bitter ....stores easily in jars .......so it would be helpful to all if some of you try it and let us know your findings...rather than imagination or guessing....my local indian supplier sells 25kgs bags of it he supplies local birs.
Mods if this in wrong place please move
#6
Lets Talk Curry / Spot the difference
November 16, 2014, 09:23 AM
Order a meal in your favourite Bir and eat there then order the same as a delivered take-away from the same place,they should taste the same ,same methods and chef
Do they both taste the same ?
From my findings no and there is a good reason,any experiences to share on this and why the difference ;D
#7
Lets Talk Curry / No more bitter onions for me
October 30, 2014, 08:25 PM
Noticing a bucket of chopped onions in water in a local Bir a few weeks ago I had to ask why assuming it was to stop the fumes irritating eyes etc  :'(
To my surprise the chef said it takes the bitterness out of the onions
At home the experiments began 1st was a bitter onion chopped then put in very cold water for 20 mins
drained then I made some dips red onion and WOW no bitter tastes
Onion bargee was next WOW again
A base was next 4kgs in water 25mins drained JBs base it was which I like WOW again
After a search on google its quite common in Spain and Mexico to tame the raw onions
So have we all missed this so obvious technique
For me this is a revolution   ;D


#8
For those interested Geetas premium mango chutney is half price in a well known supermarket beginning with a T and ending in an O
Very nice as well ;D
#9
Lets Talk Curry / Mix powder why ?
September 12, 2014, 05:39 PM
Over the years I have noticed mix powder taking over from adding spices  individually as needed for each
curry which make them as the original recipe dictates
In all my currys its the adding as requested by recipes that work better

When all currys have the same mix of spices blandness evolves.  A bit of a backward step IMO
It seems to of only occurred in the last 20 years or so
I am asking so as I and all can learn a little more :D
#10
Cooking Methods / BIR cooking method
September 05, 2014, 02:32 PM
Hi All  ;D
This post should help those who are a bit lost as to the basic technique used in many Birs
When learned it will produce a good curry using a good base and spices
 
Notes on technique: Baghar and Bhunao

Baghar, Tadka or Chonk (instant flavoring or Tempering)

This is one technique that is fairly unique to Indian cooking, whole spices are dropped into oil to infuse. this technique is called Baghar, Tadka or Chonk.

1. Heat oil quite hot but not so hot that it starts to smoke and then drop in whole spices which then release their flavors into the oil.
2. Larger harder spices like stick cinnamon, and star anise can be added first. (stir constantly)
3. Once the larger spices have started to swell and and change color. (stir constantly)
4. cardamom can be added, and shortly thereafter (stir constantly)
5. Smaller spices like fennel seed, cumin or coriander seed can be added last and will only cook for 30 seconds depending on the heat of the oil. (stir constantly)
6. Stir constantly until the smallest spices are fragrant and have darkened in color.
7. Remove from heat.

The purpose of this technique is twofold, to infuse the oil with as much of the flavor from the spices as possible, and to toast and brown the spices themselves which will further develop new flavors in the spices which will infuse the oil.

When baghar (translated as instant flavorings or tempering) is performed correctly there is a physical change in the spices, they will become toasted and more brown, dry spices will uncurl and expand slightly, and the smell will change from a raw spice flavor to a more intense toasted flavor.

Remember to heat your oil before adding your spices, add from the most hardy to the smallest spices, wait for the color change and smell change before moving on in the recipe.

This technique can be used in two different ways, either use the oil in the pan to cook other ingredients or to pour the oil over a completed dish to add another kick of flavor at the end.

Bhunao (sautee)
This is not a French sautee, although it is similar up to a point. Almost all curries and thick sauce dishes use this method of cooking at one point or another. To develop a great Indian sauce this technique is paramount!

1. Oil or ghee is heated in a frying pan (sometimes Baghar(see above) is performed to flavor the oil first). Then wet ingredients are added, it could be vegetables or marinated meat.

2. These ingredients are then cooked over a hot flame to reduce to a thick paste. stir occasionally to keep the ingredients mixed and heating evenly.

3. Once its lost almost all of it's liquid, you can reduce the heat to medium or medium high. Stirring every so often and allowing the paste to lightly stick to the bottom of the pan, then scraping it off with a spatula.

4. Once it begins to stick so much that you can't lightly scrape it off you drop a few tablespoons of liquid ( This is where the base is used) into the pot until the stuck parts will dissolve while you mix and scrape them (deglazing the stuck on foods)

5. This is then mixed into the rest of the paste and you then let the excess liquid evaporate.

6. Repeat the sticking and deglazing 3-4 times.

The real key is to let it stick a little bit and actually brown, just like you let meat brown to get that delicious brown outer crust. The more times you repeat this process and the deeper the browning the more deep and flavorful your paste will become. Just don't let it burn!

This can be done with any liquid that is being added to be pot such as tomato puree, broth or water.

For the record
The browning and maturing of the spices in the Baghar process as well as the browning of the vegetables and marinades are both a result of a Maillard reaction, named after the chemist Louis-Camille Maillard. This process is  a very complicated synthesis of organic flavor compounds created by the reaction of sugars with amino acids. They form a vast array of flavor compounds that as of yet haven't been adequately studied. However, they taste... awesome.

This method should help to understand the uses of a base
All free as well ;)

#11
Lets Talk Curry / Over critical
August 23, 2014, 09:44 AM
I have this feeling that as Curry cooks and learning more as we progress we are becoming too critical of everything,maybe that's good.
How many here have found there ideal dish then changed it over and over again, lots have on this forum,nothing wrong with that but why does it happen
Any ideas ?
#12
Nothing wrong with Naan breads at all Supermarkets are bulging with them So why are Chapatis going out of vogue ?
Once you got the knack there easier to make and store and great for mopping the plate For me there much tastier
Do any of you like and use them? ;D
#13
Lets Talk Curry / For Madras lovers
August 11, 2014, 07:27 PM
I couldn't help noticing in a local take away some Geo Watkins mushroom ketchup 4 bottles on a shelf so asking what they were used for the answer was "a good splash in a Madras "So I said "I have heard of Worcestershire sauce being used" and he sad" this was much better"
Tried some and was amazed a nice tang :D
#14
Lets Talk Curry / Fake Kashmiri chillis
August 06, 2014, 08:52 AM
Over the years I have noticed the trend towards Kashmiri chillis top chefs feel in the dark if they do not use them so what is going on?   
Most Kashmiri chillis are not the ones sought after but other common chillis passed off to the consumer at a silly price it is the same and even worse with powders.
The true Kashmiri chilli is a deep crimson with a smooth, shiny, thin skin It is about 5 cm long by 2.5 cm wide and has a nice fruity flavour. Heat level is medium.
If there is a bitterness there not Kashmiris the powders are very suspect
Its a pity that some home cooks buy the rubbish then assume Kashmiris are all bitter
If anyone gets and real ones keep the seeds they are like gold dust




#15
I was given this recipe years ago Kadi patta or Curry leaf powder
Its a good way to use up Curry leaves

A good handful curry leaves
1 teaspoon channa dhal
1 tsp cumin seed
2 tsp salt
1 tsp mango powder
1 tsp mustard seed
1/2 tsp fenugreek seed
2 tsp oil
2 red chillis

Add 1 tsp oil to pan get hot then add twice washed and dried leaves roast till they are brittle
remove and set aside
Add 1 tsp oil to same pan and roast the channa dahl until they turn light brown add other seeds and fry lightly not burning and stirring add chillis last
put leaves salt mango powder and all the items in blender and grind
store in dark glass container and use when needed

This can be used in base or as you cook your meal or in dahls etc
It has a nice Bir aroma and I keep sniffing it as its very aromatic

I hope someone tries this. and please let me know the results as stated Very Bir ;D
#16
Lets Talk Curry / E-Books revolution Bir
July 04, 2014, 01:29 PM

Hi Curryheads :)
My Daughter for part of a university project is checking out E-Books and has found over 400 on Bir cooking.With all sorts of secret claims,3 Years ago there were just a few.
Makes me wonder where all the info comes from.and who subscribes to them, is this the future?
#17
Lets Talk Curry / Rice knowhow?
February 22, 2012, 10:46 AM
Hi :)
Anyone in the know as to how rice is dealt with in BIRS and T/A,s ?
It arrives in a ali container which can not be used in a microwave
So it must be precooked then stored, but how is it heated and treated? This has always been a mystery to me
Any ideas?
#18
Lets Talk Curry / surplus rice
February 06, 2012, 04:30 PM
Hi All ;)
What do you do with leftover rice ?
I put mine in screw top containers into the fridge, when I fancy a snack I microwave one then add any lime pickle or any Asian pickles m,m,m,m,m,mm,
That way you can judge pickles without other tastes
No waste and great eating ;)
#19
Cooking Equipment / Revel wet and dry grinder
January 26, 2012, 05:29 PM
Anyone tried 1 of these ? They are advertised to puree ginger etc and grind spices
Thanks
#20
Hi All :)
I reckon that a good curry cook could make a good curry from a bad base, and a bad cook could ruin a curry using a good base
I like cooking many styles and realise how easy it is to spoil basic recipes with the wrong amount of herbs etc
I still believe that EXPERIENCE is the missing link and understanding how spices react with each other
Any thoughts on this???????????
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