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Lets Talk Curry / Re: Help. My kids won't eat curry
« on: November 20, 2006, 09:04 PM »
Thanks
Some useful pointers. I'll make chilli heads of them yet!

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Lets Talk Curry / Help. My kids won't eat curry
« on: November 14, 2006, 10:03 PM »
I have two young daughters (3 and 6) who I am am trying to get to eat curry but with little success. They are good eaters who like a huge variety of home cooked food, not just the usual kids rubbish like fish fingers and burgers etc. We constantly give them new things to try and after two of three attempts they usually like most things. Not so curry. They love rice, naan and of course poppadoms but even the mildest curry has them retching.

I don't believe young kids just don't like curry. Asian youngsters must eat it as a matter of course. Has anyone cracked a similar problem. Any advice would be appreciated.

Hans

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Lets Talk Curry / M&S Chicken Piri Piri
« on: November 14, 2006, 09:41 PM »
Normally I don't give supermarket ready meal curries the time of day (does anyone out there really like CTM?) but the one exception I really like is M&S chicken piri piri. I have tried to copy this using the ingredients list as a guide but I am still not getting there. It has a particular intense sweetness which I have been unable to recreate. One of the ingredients is given as molasses but the addition of sugar molasses does not help. I thought I had it cracked when I read about pomegranite molasses being a secret ingredient in middle eastern cookery but this didn't do the trick either.
Does anyone else like this curry? If there are other fans help in duplicating this dish would be appreciated

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Lets Talk Curry / Re: Growing Your Own
« on: November 14, 2006, 09:31 PM »
Hi fellow growers
I too have failed miserably with coriander. I will take the above advice on board for my next attempt. Does anyone know it this is better grown outdoors or inside and whether this can be done all year round? I also have a cool greenhouse and south facing porch which could be utilised. Can spice variety coriander be used as seed?

I had a good garlic crop this year and also some excellent chillis. I will try aubergines next year as my wife is addicted to my aubergine curry and they are quite expensive to buy comparatively. My celery was also rubbish but apparently this is quite difficult to grow well. Any tips for this would be appreciated.

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Dopiaza / Cracking Dopiaza with 'the smell'
« on: November 06, 2006, 10:28 PM »
This is a recipe based on one I obtained from the Tandoori trade magazine at least 7 or 8 years ago. It was claimed to be a domestic recipe rather than a BIR one and I have modified it with the addition of a restaurant style base sauce and omitted some rather tedious parts (pulping onions and separating the juice from the pulp by straining through muslin). I have also cut the quantities to serve 2 or 3 persons.

It is without doubt the best restaurant style curry I have made in 10 years. It has 'the smell' although it is not as pungent as with a genuine restaurant curry.

4 small onions
1 potato
rapeseed oil (skimmed from a previous recipe if possible)
2 heaped teaspoons chopped garlic
2 bay leaves
2 teaspoons chopped fresh ginger
4 green cardamoms
1 teaspoon black peppercorns
2-3 inch Cinnamon stick
6 cloves
1 fresh chilli (red or green)
1 teaspoon turmeric
2 chopped fresh tomatoes
1 tablespoon of ghee or butter
1/2 teaspoon sugar
chicken stock
1/2 teaspoon garam masala
salt (unless commercial stock is used)
restaurant style base sauce
chicken  (or lamb or prawn etc)

Very finely chop one of the onions (I usually blitz it in my Kenwood mini chopper) and fry in  oil until soft. Put the onions to one side.
In more oil fry the garlic and bay leaves and after two minutes add the cinnamon stick and cardamoms. After a further two minutes add the peppercorns, cloves and chopped chilli. After another minute add the ginger and turmeric and stir until well mixed in. Then add the potato, tomatoes and chicken followed by the ghee and sugar. Cook for 5-10 minutes then add reserved onions and desired quantity of base sauce. Add the stock and the remaining onions cut into quarters and the salt. After a couple of minutes transfer the whole thing to a casserole dish, add the garam masala and cook in the oven for about ?30 minutes.

Please note the following:

I don't usually measure ingredients or time cooking. I just do what feels right at the time. Not very scientific but I am trying to learn to cook via feel rather than rote.

There is no secret recipe for the base sauce. The one I use is similar to many posted on this site although I do add a small quantity of chilli, and gram masala so that it could almost be used as a very mild curry sauce in it's own right.

I have recently found that my curries have improved by using the cheapest supermarket cooking oil which is invariably rapeseed oil. Previosly I had always used corn oil or sunflower oil. No doubt restaurants also use the cheapest oil available.

I believe that re-using oil helps with 'the taste' and 'the smell'. This technique has already been mentioned in other posts and definitely does help.

The first time I made this I didn't notice 'the smell' till I came into the kitchen the next day and opened the dishwasher which had stood all night with the dirty dishes in it.
The second time I made this I reserved the skimmed oil and used it for the third occasion. I have some reserved oil from the third occasion in a jar in my fridge and the aroma is just delightful. There is no doubt that it is 'the smell'. It is like standing in the street behind your local BIR.

I think it is interesting to note that there is no cummin or coriander in this recipe although there is a possibility there is a tiny quantity in the base sauce. I have been using a batch from the freezer and can't quite remember what went in it. I will have to start keeping records as I usually modify my recipes each time in the search for improvement.

My garam masala is from 'Indian Cooking' by Sameen Rushdie. Spices are whole roasted and ground.

green cardamom
black cardamom
black cumin
cinnamon stick
black pepper
cloves
bay leaves
nutmeg
(mace omitted as I had none)

I would be grateful if someone could try this recipe and see if they too have a similar success with 'the smell'. I am not saying that I have cracked this. The aroma is definitely there but not as concentrated as with BIR dishes. In my own cooking it is another small step along a long road. If others think that there is something in this it will debunk the secret ingredient theory once and for all and confirm what others have said already, that it is technique and methods which count. My own goal is not to cook exactly like a restaurant but to come up with a way of domestic Indian cooking which mimics good restaurant style and ultimately surpasses it.

If no one else can reproduce these results then it means that either I am exaggerating the success of this recipe or that it is my own technique which is contributing rather than the ingredients. I would love to know which.

Please therefore give it a go and let me know the outcome.

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Just Joined? Introduce Yourself / I am no longer alone!
« on: October 13, 2006, 09:54 PM »
Hi Group
Just found this site yesterday and found that all you folks have been experimenting in parallel with the stuff I've been doing (in isolation) for about 15 years now.
First got interested in curry when I was a student in Bradford from 86-90. So many cheap curry houses with very distinctive styles and even an Asian hypermarket with every ingredient you can imagine (by the sackful). These days I have to get buy with a small local Asian grocer.

I have eaten many curries in many different restaurants over the years and whilst many have the same standard taste many are also very unique. The worst curry I ever had was in Bangor in north Wales and I still think the best were in Bradford. I now live near Durham and there are some fine curries to be had in Newcastle. Had a curry in Devon in the summer and have to same it was probably the blandest ever.  I think what I am tring to say is that although most restaurants have 'the taste' a minority do not so I don't think we home cooks do too bad overall.

I first bought Kris Dhillon's book in about 1991 and taking it home I was like a kid on christmas day. Disappointment of course followed but this book by outlining basic principles set me on the road to better and better curries mainly through trial and error. My next book was of course Pat Chapman's indian restaurant cookbook but again the 'holy grail' was not achieved. Some years after this '100 best balti curries followed' Still not there in terms of taste. These days I would rate my standard restaurant curry as 8 out of 10 but of course I still have to achieve 'the taste'. I haven't had a chance to work through many of the threads on the site yet but I can see that there are many tips I can put to good use.
From my own experience I would add/concur with the following:

With spices less is more or should that be more is less. I now use far fewer spices by volume in relation to sauce than I ever did previously with much better results.

I buy whole spices and grind them myself but I am not absolutely convinced this is hugely important for a base sauce.

Stock is very important. I now use proper chicken stock made from the carcass even though its a right pain. This in by opinion makes a huge difference to the final dish.

For my base sauce I use proportionately less tomatoes now and think that this has also helped.

To fry or boil? Initially I used to boil, blend then fry. Then I tryed frying till soft followed by blending. Whats the difference? Frying first gives the sauce a darker colour and I find that the blender makes an emulsion from the oil and water which result in a different texture from your average BIR curry. I have gone back to boiling first as I'm sure this must be how most restaurants do it.

The next base sauce I am going to make (pan's on now actually) will also contain celery and carrot. Thanks for that tip. I will let you all know if it's an improvement.

I have never managed to make decent rice but will be following some of the methods posted in anticipation. I can make a pretty decent chappati and made some cracking naans about a month ago (cooked primarily on a smoking hot tava) although the next batch were nowhere nearly as good.

Probably have waffled on quite enough for an introductory post but will never give up on the search for 'the taste'

Happy cooking!

 


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