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This is the Salmon portion recipe I used. It was from Youtube, but I used the Masala I had made up instead of the one on the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esYuj6RC2Tw

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This thread here on CRO has it all from when I made it, including the recipe I used.  OP by Dal Puri and a very easy / simplified recipe posted by Chewy Tikka. 

https://curry-recipes.co.uk/curry/index.php?topic=11509.0#google_vignette

Unfortunately, the link within to the Australian site I used is broken (Spicemama.com.au)  However, I think it was only a link to the sale of her product (Wayback Machine).  Here is the link to her Blog site which contains some recipes using it in the Recipe section.
https://www.spicemama.au/

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Livo
Do you recall how many individual spices you used in your BBM?
It seems some blends have 50 or more different spices, a number of which would likely be near impossible to track down here in the U.K. That is the reason I bought a ready made masala from Ome Made which purportedly has 53 different spices in the mix.

I have been on a very restricted diet for medical reasons for the last four weeks but hope to use the masala for the first time next weekend.

The masala I bought came in a packet but I have transferred it to a washed out Bovril jar to protect from light, as that seems to be an important consideration when storing the spice. Traditionally it would have been stored in washed and cleaned beer bottles, or so it is reported.
Tempest, I don't remember if I wrote it down or printed what I ended up using, but I probably did.  I'll have a look, but I did bookmark 5 different online recipes that I would have used, if not as the recipe I followed, as guide to what to use and quantities.  I'll post the links in an hour or two when I'm at the PC.

I remember that some ingredients were just odd or difficult to obtain and I didn't use them.

I actually had mine packaged in amber glass beer bottles.

Edit:  I had saved more links than I thought.  I know I did do a lot or research before I made my batch.  The last link has a couple of recipes that actually use the stuff.

https://showmerecipes.blogspot.com/2016/08/east-indian-bottle-masala-how-to-make.html
https://www.mangaloreanrecipes.com/recipes/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=86&Itemid=110
https://www.flavorsofmumbai.com/east-indian-bottle-masala-recipe/#google_vignette
https://bottlemasala.com/Bottle_Masala_Recipe.html
https://recipes.sparkpeople.com/recipe-detail.asp?recipe=625311
https://rasoitime.com/east-indian-bottle-masala/
https://www.dnaindia.com/lifestyle/report-an-east-indian-speaks-on-the-importance-of-that-kitchen-staple-bottle-masala-1913067#google_vignette
https://www.deccanchronicle.com/sunday-chronicle/epicuriosity/091016/an-east-indian-feast.html

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I found the concept and production of BBM intriguing. I made the best possible copy I could.  I very much enjoyed it and the dishes made using it. I gave a bottle to my dad and when it was all gone, never revisited.

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My understanding of Deggi Mirch is a that it is indeed a blended product, using selected and controlled varieties of chilli to produce a very consistent and reproducible powder for market under the MDH brand.  I just found the dishes I made using it the other night didn't just have chilli heat, but a very pleasant and enjoyable flavour associated directly to the chilli. To me it really stood out as a noticeable difference when compared to just using say KRCP or Mild CP.

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They probably use a very bland base gravy (or several different ones) and rely heavily on variation of the spices and other ingredients that go into the pan at first stage.  I have experienced your problem myself with the BIR method, even though it makes excellent curry.  If I make a particular base gravy and mixed powder as specified by a grouped list of recipes, and use them for 10 different dishes, they will all have the same undertone of flavour.  This is unavoidable really.  I specifically like to make "weak" base gravy, when I'm making mild curries.   If you don't, they will taste the same.  I make mixed powder, but I'm finding that I use less and less of it, when it gets down to making the variation of dishes I want.

I currently have 3 different Mixed Powders in my spice cupboard, 4 or 5 different curry powders from a packet and 4 or 5 different types of chilli powder.  I have just found the delight of Deghi Mirch, although I've known about it for years and had the unopened pack in my reserve box for quite a while.  If you want things to taste different, you have to mix it up.

Hotel style uses up to 7 different gravies, alone and in combination, but that isn't the BIR method.  Base gravy, mixed powder, a few different spices and pre-cooked chicken (or lamb).  Chilli heat is the major variation that occurs in some lines and then you have the 3 types you've outlined.

The thing is that the local T/A is counting on not too many people coming back too regularly and, if they only go back every second week and have a favourite dish, they're going to be happy every time.  This is especially applicable to people who have never tried to cook for themselves.

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House Specialities / Re: Murgh Makhani (Butter Chicken) with Taz Base
« on: February 05, 2025, 06:28 AM »
Interesting to read over my own earlier posts in this thread from 7 years ago.  I'd say the OP recipe was still there 7 years ago.  Anyway, I'll give your recipe a try UF, although I have to admit that I'm not a big fan of Carnation Evaporated milk in curry.  I'll probably use cream, which may not be BIR.

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House Specialities / Re: Murgh Makhani (Butter Chicken) with Taz Base
« on: February 04, 2025, 06:02 AM »
Excellent stuff Unclefrank.  For the Butter Chicken last night, I had made a simple and basic Makhani Gravy and did the Taz base method stage 1 reduction thing using very diluted base to get the dish going.  I then added the Tikka Chicken and Makhani and finished off with a splash of extra cream.  It turned out pretty good.  I'll give your 2 recipes a go for sure.  I really enjoyed all 3 dishes I made using the Taz base and it has a lot of depth from that initial reduction and cooking the spices that way.  My Makhani Gravy included a paste of cashews and char magaz.

I'd really appreciate your take on a CTM.  I'm going to give the Cook4one Balti Passanda a try with my pre-cooked lamb and Taz Base tonight.

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Livo, I have one recipe typed up long ago that uses Taz base.  I just entitled it ‘Taz Basic Curry’. Must’ve been ok for me if I typed it up -


Well Robbo, that one's pretty good at cook's taste test. I'll know better when it's dinner time.  For some reason I'm finding the Taz Base a little salty even though I followed the recipe.  I'll be leaving the salt out of this dish next time.

I've also cooked a basic Mild Lamb Curry using 1 heaped TBSP of Ashoka Mild Curry Paste, with the first reduction of Taz Base.  Again, pretty tasty on cook's test although, again a little salty.  Both used Misty Ricardo pre-cooks so I wonder if I was heavy handed there.  They should be fine when served up with rice.  I won't mention it to the other diners and see if it's just me.

The third curry so far is a Butter Chicken that used the fake Tikka pre-cook from Cook4One and a mix of about 1 part Taz base and 3 parts Makhani gravy.  I like it a lot.  The tikka pre-cook is a regular from now on.  I used it all, so I'll need to do it again to try a CTM.

Curry number 4 is Masala Prawns which is a favourite here but does not use BIR method or Base Gravy.  I'm about to cook it soon because I always do it right before serving.  It's meant to be served on Saffron Rice, but I have no Saffron.

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The chicken tikka pre-cook could be a game changer for me. It certainly tasted pretty good straight out of the pot.  I will need to use less water next time as Ì was unable to get to the nearly dry point.  It has been observed here that our chicken breast is possibly being pumped full of water.  I know that when I try to fry some it tends to release a lot of water which bubbles away before browning begins.  I cooked some chicken breast a few months back and weighed it to find there was a 30% loss.

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