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Curry Chat => Lets Talk Curry => Topic started by: 976bar on October 01, 2012, 08:28 PM
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Finally getting to grips with the bulk BIR style cooking :)
Saturday evening, I made 15Kg of Chicken Tikka (albeit Knorr professional tikka paste instead of Pataks) and I didn't use any orange food colouring, left it to marinade until this morning, then put it all into trays and pre-cooked it.
Made Taz's base, (3 times the amount that is on the sheet) to the button. Then finally made CA's Chicken Ceylon, but with the Chicken Tikka.
I'm happy now with Taz's base in large quantities, (haven't changed anything) and the final dish today came out in near perfect BIR style. The only things I changed on his recipe, was the amount of Chili Powder as trebling it up would have caused an explosion, and the same with the amount of lemon juice.
I did add a further 4 tins of coconut milk, but the end result was marvelous. I even got the oil separation from both the base and the final dish :)
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WOW, that looks great.... 8)
enough to feed the CRO regulars for a week!
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Looks great 976. Do you think with your new found knowledge of bulk cooking you could come up with some recipes for cooking some of the forum favourites in the largest pot many of us will have at home, something like a 6 to 8 litre stockpot? Cooking in bulk this way might be a time saving way of getting 12 or 15 portions of curry cooked at once and allow for freezing the finished curries in take away trays for reheating when required.
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Now that top image (link below) is by far the best picture I have seen from the kitchens of Royal Holloway. I seem to recall that you were initially on a six-week trial : am I right in this, and if so, will you accept a continuation if offered one ?
** Phil.
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Now that top image (link below) is by far the best picture I have seen from the kitchens of Royal Holloway. I seem to recall that you were initially on a six-week trial : am I right in this, and if so, will you accept a continuation if offered one ?
** Phil.
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Hi Phil,
It's a shame you couldn't make it today. I have been told by Carol the Head Chef at the Uni that I can stay on for as long as I want :)
The only problem with that, is that I really don't think I can afford to :( which is a big shame as it is a dream come true for me...
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Looks great 976. Do you think with your new found knowledge of bulk cooking you could come up with some recipes for cooking some of the forum favourites in the largest pot many of us will have at home, something like a 6 to 8 litre stockpot? Cooking in bulk this way might be a time saving way of getting 12 or 15 portions of curry cooked at once and allow for freezing the finished curries in take away trays for reheating when required.
Hi Chris,
The difference which made the difference today, was that I cooked the chicken tikka separately in the ovens and let it cool just as I would at home then made the sauce, then added the meat, just as I would at home, whereas before, it was a case of adding oil to the "Brat Pan", then sealing the meat/chicken, then adding the G&G, spices, tomato puree, base etc etc...
This is the first time I have achieved a near on "BIR" curry on such a large scale and will continue to develop this with other dishes.
I am sure that in the near future I will be able to post some recipes on here for the party goers :)
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It's a shame you couldn't make it today. I have been told by Carol the Head Chef at the Uni that I can stay on for as long as I want :) The only problem with that, is that I really don't think I can afford to :( which is a big shame as it is a dream come true for me...
Oh dear, that's a great shame. Mind you, bearing in mind your former occupation, I can hardly say I am surprised. So, do you think that six weeks and it's all over, or might you stay on until (say) Christmas, just to gain additional experience in a commercial kitchen ?
** Phil.
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It's a shame you couldn't make it today. I have been told by Carol the Head Chef at the Uni that I can stay on for as long as I want :) The only problem with that, is that I really don't think I can afford to :( which is a big shame as it is a dream come true for me...
Oh dear, that's a great shame. Mind you, bearing in mind your former occupation, I can hardly say I am surprised. So, do you think that six weeks and it's all over, or might you stay on until (say) Christmas, just to gain additional experience in a commercial kitchen ?
** Phil.
Right now Phil, I will stay there for as long as I can. It's still pretty quiet in the other industry and if the money side of things could change I would stay, so who knows, I might be making turkey & Cranberry Filo Sacks there for Xmas yet :)
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WOW, that looks great.... 8)
enough to feed the CRO regulars for a week!
Thanks Willy,
It's certainly been a fantastic learning experience for me, and I hope to share a lot more with everyone soon :)
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Right now Phil, I will stay there for as long as I can. It's still pretty quiet in the other industry and if the money side of things could change I would stay, so who knows, I might be making turkey & Cranberry Filo Sacks there for Xmas yet :)
Well, that's great news from my perspective, because I have just ordered 30 25L sacks of lawn top-dressing to be delivered to a friend's home in Camberley (local supplier, too bulky and too heavy for nationwide delivery), so I will need to make more than one Chainhurst--Camberley--Chainhurst trip to get it all home, and with any luck I can time one to take in a Bob BIR-special at College.
** Phil.
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Right now Phil, I will stay there for as long as I can. It's still pretty quiet in the other industry and if the money side of things could change I would stay, so who knows, I might be making turkey & Cranberry Filo Sacks there for Xmas yet :)
Well, that's great news from my perspective, because I have just ordered 30 25L sacks of lawn top-dressing to be delivered to a friend's home in Camberley (local supplier, too bulky and too heavy for nationwide delivery), so I will need to make more than one Chainhurst--Camberley--Chainhurst trip to get it all home, and with any luck I can time one to take in a Bob BIR-special at College.
** Phil.
Good luck with the lawn...Just give me some notice so that we can accommodate... ;)
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If you are around on Thursday evening Phil, we have another Indian night. Everything you would expect from a BIR but on a much larger scale. Made 4 x size of Taz's base today, Chicken is marinading in one of the massive fridges.
Chicken Tikka Masala (CA's), Chicken Tikka Ceylon (CA's Chicken Ceylon but with Tikka), Chicken Madras (CA's), (apparently the students love Chicken!!!), Brinjal Aloo Bhaji, (Thanks to Curryhells, Brinjal Bhaji but with potatoes), Rice, Onion Bhajis (Indian Garden), Mini Naan Breads, Poppadoms, Coriander Chutney (Mine), Yogurt mint sauce, Indian salad (cucumber, tomato, red onion, coriander), Mango Chutney....
Not sure if I have forgotten anything yet, but will advise later :)
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If you are around on Thursday evening Phil, we have another Indian night.
Can't make it before I leave for Abu Dhabi & Shanghai, Bob; return on 22nd or thereabouts, so will liaise with you on my return.
** Phil.
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Bob - your mass production curry exploits have got me thinking... over here in Canada, most Indian Restaurants focus on the buffet style. Large plates of various curries etc under heat lamps, replenished as they get eaten, or just turn foul.
This type of Indian restaurant, I cannot stand. Awful curries. I'd rather eat McDonalds.
Since learning BIR cooking - base plus mains cooked on demand - I can see why the "buffet" style could never replicate what I remember as proper BIR.
You seem to be doing it with the Taz base and established cr0 main recipes. Does it scale well? Why don't the buffet guys do it? Cost?
Just curious what you think.
Cheers and great work,
-- Josh
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Bob - your mass production curry exploits have got me thinking... over here in Canada, most Indian Restaurants focus on the buffet style. Large plates of various curries etc under heat lamps, replenished as they get eaten, or just turn foul.
This type of Indian restaurant, I cannot stand. Awful curries. I'd rather eat McDonalds.
Since learning BIR cooking - base plus mains cooked on demand - I can see why the "buffet" style could never replicate what I remember as proper BIR.
You seem to be doing it with the Taz base and established cr0 main recipes. Does it scale well? Why don't the buffet guys do it? Cost?
Just curious what you think.
Cheers and great work,
-- Josh
Hi Josh,
Yes it does scale well. With Taz's Base, all I have done is quadrupled the quantities, (largest base I have ever made), using 8 litres of water, 4kg onions, 4 green peppers, 24 garlic cloves cut in half, 4 x 2 x 1 inch pieces of ginger, 6 tbps Turmeric, 6 tbs of both Coriander & Cumin seeds, 1.6 litres of oil, 4 desert spoons of salt. Oh, and I use 1.6kg chopped tinned tomatoes.
I have started cooking the onions in the oil first until soft and translucent, then adding everything else, simmering for about and hour and a half, (time doesn't seem to matter too much when working in a commercial kitchen as there is always something else to do whilst waiting), then blend to a smooth liquid, then return to a low heat until the oil separates.
I've discovered cooking the chicken in trays in the ovens first at 180 degrees for about 15 minutes, gets it three quarters of the way there. Make the sauce in a large "Brat Pan", then add the chicken and cook for a further 10 minutes on a low heat just to finish the chicken off, which comes out so succulent.
I can only think the buffet guys don't do it as they are probably making a lot more dishes than say my 3 or 4 which is time consuming, but shouldn't be if everyone pulls their weight in the kitchen.... It's easy to prep in between services and par cook or marinade something a couple of days in advance :)
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If you are around on Thursday evening Phil, we have another Indian night.
Can't make it before I leave for Abu Dhabi & Shanghai, Bob; return on 22nd or therebouts, so will liaise with you on my return.
** Phil.
Have a good trip Phil, hopefully see you upon your return :)