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Title: Where are we now - will all of us get to where we want to go?
Post by: curryhell on September 29, 2012, 12:47 PM
I started to add a comment to Petrolhead
Title: Re: Where are we now - will all of us get to where we want to go?
Post by: Stephen Lindsay on September 30, 2012, 12:26 AM
Good post CH.

I've been cooking a couple of curries per night for my g/f and me for the past 12 to 18 months. The quality of my curries has certainly improved over this time as has the consistency of results. I've pretty much stuck to the same base and spice mix (Taz and BE) during that time and although I've developed recipes for most of the classic BIR dishes I've tended in the main to cook our personal favourites more often, i.e. Madras, Pathia, Ceylon.

I think I'm producing curries that are as good as many takeaways locally and in some cases I've ordered a takeaway only to be disappointed with the results. Looking at the quality of posts, recipes and videos I find it hard to believe that others are not also doing the same. There seems to me to be a breadth and depth of knowledge amongst forum members that to my mind is sometimes played down.

I've learned so much on here and am satisfied with what I can produce. I enjoy eating those curries! I don't know where I'm going next though no doubt time will tell. Until then I'm happy carrying on doing what I'm doing.

Title: Re: Where are we now - will all of us get to where we want to go?
Post by: Naga on September 30, 2012, 07:30 AM
I'm with Stephen here. With the knowledge and borrowed skills gleaned from member's posts here, I'm making the best curries, accompaniments and sundries than I could ever have dreamed of.

I think, since I started off, that I've made 1 middling curry - the rest have been superb (to my mind, anyway! :)) and, even though I have to turn the chilli heat down for my family, they agree that my curries are better than the takeaways.

I must admit, I don't quite understand the level of obsession that some people have towards achieving the "perfect" curry - it's never going to happen and it's too subjective across individual tastes anyway. But, in saying that, I'm on a number of other, non-food forums and similar obsessions are evident there. Just a human thing, I expect!

But to those guys who are producing the good food and good ideas on here - keep it up! It's all good! :)
Title: Re: Where are we now - will all of us get to where we want to go?
Post by: natterjak on September 30, 2012, 11:24 AM
I think one of the problems is there are so many individual elements which build up the flavour of a curry, there are plenty of stages at which you can get derailed and not know which. For me the big advances in my results have come from frying the spices properly, getting the flavour of my base nailed, using a good pre cook method to get flavour into the chicken and finally getting a way of making a good flavoursome spiced oil.
Title: Re: Where are we now - will all of us get to where we want to go?
Post by: Dajoca on October 01, 2012, 12:16 PM
Hi Natterjak, are your methods for frying the spices and creating the Spiced oil on the forum at all? If not could you elaborate?
Thank you.
Title: Re: Where are we now - will all of us get to where we want to go?
Post by: natterjak on October 01, 2012, 06:05 PM
Hi, not at present, but next time I cook a batch up I will write it up with pictures. I have a good stock of oil frozen at present but I reckon in a few weeks I'll need to replenish it.
Title: Re: Where are we now - will all of us get to where we want to go?
Post by: JerryM on October 01, 2012, 08:57 PM
firm believer in asking this question.

i am pretty confident the answer will be yes. the collective efforts of us all is real powerful stuff. there's also more knowledge coming out of the restaurant circle too these days.

i'm still not convinced it can be done without heat but we've talked that to death. all is in a song... "so many steps to heaven". mine is about 33 steps round the house and into the garage. a load of hassle on a tray too.

i'm still not 100% sure on the last part of my gap. the ongoing work on the oil is 1 area. after that i think it's just down to recipe.

being well happy having far exceeded expectations - i would never have thought i would be worried about which mains to delete from my make often list to add in the jafflon and mogul.

at some point i would like to master a few dishes that i like but never got right so far. these being sylheti, pathia and rogan josh. balti is another but even further away down the road.

no mash and gravy here.

the only downside i've experienced is that family start to think of me as TA menu and can order what they want not realising the vast range of dish ingredients and that kind of prep is just out of the question for just a few servings. the freezer does help but i'm not sure it works for all.
Title: Re: Where are we now - will all of us get to where we want to go?
Post by: Kashmiri Bob on October 14, 2012, 09:58 PM
After the meal my wife and I have just endured at a local BIR, we're thinking the header to this forum should actually read:

This forum is all about creating your favourite curries a lot better than what you get from an Indian takeaway or restaurant.

Rob
Title: Re: Where are we now - will all of us get to where we want to go?
Post by: JerryM on October 16, 2012, 05:35 PM
getonthegarabi,

i think it's even worse than you suggest.

pretty much all BIR are suffering from our lack of cash. there are so many outlets and there just isn't enough cash out there for them all to survive.

in cutting corners to try and make ends meet is making it worse - as you say - glad of the forum.

Title: Re: Where are we now - will all of us get to where we want to go?
Post by: natterjak on October 23, 2012, 04:31 PM
Hi Natterjak, are your methods for frying the spices and creating the Spiced oil on the forum at all? If not could you elaborate?
Thank you.

Hi Dajoca, I've added the recipe to the forum here: http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/curry/index.php?topic=8952.0 (http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/curry/index.php?topic=8952.0)
Title: Re: Where are we now - will all of us get to where we want to go?
Post by: Dajoca on October 25, 2012, 11:41 AM
Thanks for the excellent post Natterjack.
Really well laid out with photo's as well, so thank you for putting that together
Title: Re: Where are we now - will all of us get to where we want to go?
Post by: natterjak on October 25, 2012, 01:05 PM
You're welcome Dajoca
Title: Re: Where are we now - will all of us get to where we want to go?
Post by: Secret Santa on October 25, 2012, 04:55 PM
Can today's BIR be cooked at home?  Yes it can - i was told so by a BIR chef.  For me, no further discussion is needed.

No argument from me there. The curries now lack the special odour and taste of the real BIR curries of yesteryear and are relatively easy to reproduce at home.

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The dishes and flavours of 30 plus years ago however, are in some peoples' opinion a different story

Indeed they are.
Title: Re: Where are we now - will all of us get to where we want to go?
Post by: curryhell on October 25, 2012, 09:12 PM
Can today's BIR be cooked at home?  Yes it can - i was told so by a BIR chef.  For me, no further discussion is needed.

No argument from me there. The curries now lack the special odour and taste of the real BIR curries of yesteryear and are relatively easy to reproduce at home.

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The dishes and flavours of 30 plus years ago however, are in some peoples' opinion a different story

Indeed they are.

Unfortunately SS unless a chef from 30 plus years ago is going to spill the beans and let us in on the secrets of that time this is where we are.  We can only try our best to replicate the best of what is available now since we have a direct comparison.   Fortunately, we have a few members that continue to work at recreating the tastes of that byegone era and hopefully, one day we may get that breakthrough.  That said, IMHO many members are happy enough to create the equivlent of the best dishes of today.  Anything more than this would be a bonus.  As always, the search goes on ::)