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Title: Is this the Foker?
Post by: Salvador Dhali on February 20, 2012, 11:58 AM
Now the weather is starting to warm up a little the prospect of returning to the delights of al fresco flambeing is starting to appeal, and inspired by pictures of Solarsplace's 'take no prisoners' approach I was thinking of replacing my knackered old burner with something similar:

http://www.gasproducts.co.uk/acatalog/Large_Tripod_Gas_Boiling_Ring.html (http://www.gasproducts.co.uk/acatalog/Large_Tripod_Gas_Boiling_Ring.html)

With an 8.8 kw output there are no concerns with its power. My only concern is its size. At 35cm wide it may be a little on the large size for a standard (24cm) curry pan.

Anyone here used one of these babies?

Or if it is indeed the same as yours, Solarsplace, maybe you could advise, kind sir?

Any thoughts gratefully appreciated.

Cheers

Gary

Title: Re: Is this the Foker?
Post by: solarsplace on February 20, 2012, 12:08 PM
Hi Gary

The tripod style one in your link is the same as I have.

I am going to replace mine this spring with something like this: http://www.gasproducts.co.uk/acatalog/Large_Square_Gas_Boiling_Ring.html (http://www.gasproducts.co.uk/acatalog/Large_Square_Gas_Boiling_Ring.html)

This is because the supports on the tripod style version are such a large distance apart the only pan you can rest on top is a large wok style pan. Even my large 30cm cast iron frying pan will not rest on top of the supports without sliding off one of the supports and sending its contents flying :(

This means that you cannot easily cook in the same style as a BIR chef such as sliding and banging about your curry pans on the tripod version.

Hope that helps!
Title: Re: Is this the Foker?
Post by: DalPuri on February 20, 2012, 12:37 PM
Word of warning.
The paint underneath where the pan sits will melt and create toxic fumes as well as marking the base of your pans.
I suggest that you burn or strip this off on the inner parts as shown in red.

Cheers, Frank.  ;)

(http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/imagehost/pics/65d97f5a9f08f9e33fe296d8d381efff.JPG)
Title: Re: Is this the Foker?
Post by: Salvador Dhali on February 20, 2012, 12:51 PM
Hi Gary

The tripod style one in your link is the same as I have.

I am going to replace mine this spring with something like this: http://www.gasproducts.co.uk/acatalog/Large_Square_Gas_Boiling_Ring.html (http://www.gasproducts.co.uk/acatalog/Large_Square_Gas_Boiling_Ring.html)

This is because the supports on the tripod style version are such a large distance apart the only pan you can rest on top is a large wok style pan. Even my large 30cm cast iron frying pan will not rest on top of the supports without sliding off one of the supports and sending its contents flying :(

This means that you cannot easily cook in the same style as a BIR chef such as sliding and banging about your curry pans on the tripod version.

Hope that helps!

Thanks Solarsplace - that's told me all I need to know. In fact I have just ordered the one in the link you supplied - a veritable bargain at the price.

My last burner was a weedy 4kw job, and already the thought of commanding a mighty 8.8kw is causing me to break out in goosebumps of excitement. (I use the word "commanding" in its loosest possible sense...  ;) )

Word of warning.
The paint underneath where the pan sits will melt and create toxic fumes as well as marking the base of your pans.
I suggest that you burn or strip this off on the inner parts as shown in red.

Cheers, Frank.  ;)

(http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/imagehost/pics/65d97f5a9f08f9e33fe296d8d381efff.JPG)

Great tip, Frank. Many thanks indeed.

Title: Re: Is this the Foker?
Post by: noble ox on February 20, 2012, 01:40 PM
Hi
I use 1 of these for my brewing and outdoor cooking curries etc
If you get 1 make sure you have the correct regulator as the standard 1 which is 37mbr is quite weak for 8.5kw
The paint will need to be burned off
 If you struggle locating a reg I have a contact number
Title: Re: Is this the Foker?
Post by: Salvador Dhali on February 20, 2012, 05:54 PM
Hi
I use 1 of these for my brewing and outdoor cooking curries etc
If you get 1 make sure you have the correct regulator as the standard 1 which is 37mbr is quite weak for 8.5kw
The paint will need to be burned off
 If you struggle locating a reg I have a contact number

Thanks for the advice, which I plan to heed well.

I'm looking at this regulator, which seems to fit the bill: http://www.gasproducts.co.uk/acatalog/LPG_Reca_0-2_Bar_High_Pressure_Butane_Gas_Regulator.html (http://www.gasproducts.co.uk/acatalog/LPG_Reca_0-2_Bar_High_Pressure_Butane_Gas_Regulator.html)


Title: Re: Is this the Foker?
Post by: noble ox on February 20, 2012, 06:50 PM
Hi
I use 1 of these for my brewing and outdoor cooking curries etc
If you get 1 make sure you have the correct regulator as the standard 1 which is 37mbr is quite weak for 8.5kw
The paint will need to be burned off
 If you struggle locating a reg I have a contact number

Thanks for the advice, which I plan to heed well.

Thats the 1 you need good luck
I'm looking at this regulator, which seems to fit the bill: http://www.gasproducts.co.uk/acatalog/LPG_Reca_0-2_Bar_High_Pressure_Butane_Gas_Regulator.html (http://www.gasproducts.co.uk/acatalog/LPG_Reca_0-2_Bar_High_Pressure_Butane_Gas_Regulator.html)
Title: Re: Is this the Foker?
Post by: Salvador Dhali on February 23, 2012, 08:00 PM
Okay, the 8.8kw big boy has arrived (great service from gasproducts.co.uk):

(http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/imagehost/pics/4f742f5be0250c3ec596fca98e4dd7f9.jpg) (http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/imagehost/#4f742f5be0250c3ec596fca98e4dd7f9.jpg)

And here it is with my 26cm pan to give an idea of scale:

(http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/imagehost/pics/7738da7c5dca43f4c7757e64abc2aa43.jpg) (http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/imagehost/#7738da7c5dca43f4c7757e64abc2aa43.jpg)

My long-suffering family and friends can't understand my child-like excitement, but I just can't wait to fire the mother up!

Title: Re: Is this the Foker?
Post by: curryhell on February 23, 2012, 08:08 PM
That's a beauty alright.  Very tempting.  Let us know how you get on with it. Today would have been a superb day to give an outing ;)
Title: Re: Is this the Foker?
Post by: solarsplace on February 28, 2012, 01:40 PM
Hi SD

Was just thinking about ordering this version too. I believe you have now had a chance to use it. Do you think it is the right tool for the job?

Did you have paint issues and have to implement the solution as kindly suggested by DalPuri?

Thanks
Title: Re: Is this the Foker?
Post by: Salvador Dhali on February 28, 2012, 02:20 PM
Hi SD

Was just thinking about ordering this version too. I believe you have now had a chance to use it. Do you think it is the right tool for the job?

Did you have paint issues and have to implement the solution as kindly suggested by DalPuri?

Thanks

I have indeed used the beast, Solar. In fact I was a very naughty boy and brought it indoors while the missus was out, and have a vague, alcohol fuelled memory of posting a pic in Phil's curry powder as nucleus Madras thread.

As a hater of electric hobs I absolutely love it. It's actually not as fierce as I imagined (but obviously much hotter than my old one, which was around 4kw), but that said I don't think I'd want it any more powerful. On full heat you just daren't leave the pan unattended for more than a few seconds.

I'm using the remains of my old butane canister before switching to propane, and despite advice to the contrary I'm using a standard low pressure regulator (37mb), which the literature says it's designed for, and it works perfectly well with this setup.   

The pan sits a fair distance from the burner, so although the full area of my 26cm pan gets properly heated, the flames don't lick over the edges of the pan. This would no doubt happen with smaller pans.

Did I have paint issues?

Yes, as described by DalPuri.

Did I implement the solution as kindly suggested by DalPuri?

Did I buggery! Being an inherently impatient sod I couldn't wait to get going, so, employing my characteristically optimistic "F**k it. It'll be all right", I got stuck in.

Okay, yes, the paint does come off a bit. (Well, okay, a lot), but it only comes off once, and it doesn't take too much work with a scourer to denude your pan's base of the stuff.

Is it the right tool for the job?

In so much as it produces a decent intensity and spread of heat and gets all of your pan hot, then yes.

However, it is a basic, cheap and cheerful number (how they make them in Italy, get them over here and still manage to sell them for that price is beyond me), and if I had the money I'd have gone for the more expensive cast iron (9.2kw) model. The pan is closer to the flame, and the three valves offer a greater degree of control:

http://www.gasproducts.co.uk/acatalog/Foker_Triple_Burner_Cast_Iron_Gas_Boiling_Ring.html (http://www.gasproducts.co.uk/acatalog/Foker_Triple_Burner_Cast_Iron_Gas_Boiling_Ring.html)

Or, as I love cooking with woks, maybe this:

http://www.gasproducts.co.uk/acatalog/copy_of_Foker_Cast_Iron_Gas_Wok_Burner.html (http://www.gasproducts.co.uk/acatalog/copy_of_Foker_Cast_Iron_Gas_Wok_Burner.html)

In fact, as soon as finances allow, I think I'll be doing that very thing.

In the meantime this one will do nicely...




Title: Re: Is this the Foker?
Post by: DalPuri on February 28, 2012, 03:00 PM
I seem to have tattooed my cast iron skillet  ::)

(http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/imagehost/pics/c36ee7512d43f31a1d497df9404ad64c.jpg)


Frank.  ;)
Title: Re: Is this the Foker?
Post by: solarsplace on February 28, 2012, 09:06 PM

snip...

In fact, as soon as finances allow, I think I'll be doing that very thing.


@SD

Many thanks for a superb response. Agree, will probably do what you are planning too!

Thanks again :)

Regards

@Frank

Interesting shape your iron skillet? do you cook breads on that?

Cheers


Title: Re: Is this the Foker?
Post by: DalPuri on February 28, 2012, 10:03 PM
Hi Solar,
Yes i make artisan breads, chapatis AND now, naans with it. ;D
Definately no good on the electric hob though. Doubted myself and tried again yesterday.  ::)
It just doesn't get hot enough. Too thick.
Its an old AGA skillet i use with my rayburn and now with the gas burner. It weighs a tonne, about 15kg!

I'm thinking of buying another slightly thinner one for the electric from here:

http://www.cookingmarvellous.com/14-cast-iron-griddle.html (http://www.cookingmarvellous.com/14-cast-iron-griddle.html)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/250786850027?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/250786850027?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649)



The shop isn't too far from me, so i can save on the postage.
Its a good size and allows plenty of room for slapping chaps or naans without hitting the sides or the ends curling over.  ;)

Cheers, Frank.