Curry Recipes Online
Supplementary Recipes (Curry Powders, Curry Paste, Restaurant Spice Mixes) => Supplementary Recipes (Spice Mixes, Masalas, Pastes, Oils, Stocks, etc) => Topic started by: noble ox on January 04, 2012, 10:52 AM
-
Hi All
I attempted to source some of this sought after powder as recommended by some here
According to my research there is only 1 which is created for the Chinese take-away market
Some people are buying at 10kgs and packaging in smaller amounts (what a good idea) the idea is if its for a BIR they mix in some ????? spices ,or leave as it is for Chinese, which leaves me puzzled as to what the BIR,s do when using this mix.
Do they add spices or use on its own?
Someone must be in the know ;)
-
See this thread:
http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/curry/index.php?topic=7635.0 (http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/curry/index.php?topic=7635.0)
It reveals the breakdown of spices for a BIR mix powder that includes Eastern Star curry powder.
You are correct it only comes in 10kg containers.
It makes we wonder if other manufacturers produce a better curry powder that is only available in catering sizes. For example Rajah Madras Gold curry powder is only available in 10kg containers.
Cheers,
Paul
-
Hi All
I attempted to source some of this sought after powder as recommended by some here
According to my research there is only 1 which is created for the Chinese take-away market
Some people are buying at 10kgs and packaging in smaller amounts (what a good idea) the idea is if its for a BIR they mix in some ????? spices ,or leave as it is for Chinese, which leaves me puzzled as to what the BIR,s do when using this mix.
Do they add spices or use on its own?
Someone must be in the know ;)
when the BIR OR T/A get their powder they mix with other spice example
5 eastern star
5 haldi
2 paprika
3 jeera
3 dhania
1 jalpur garam masala
a little chili powder
hope that helps i will sell some more when i come back off holiday
-
"Eastern Star Chinese Curry Powder"
This still doesn't sit well with me, not saying its not a real practice in ifindforu's Welsh takeaway.
But I've got experience of over 50 BIRs here in the NE and I've never seen it happen. Another point is, as a rule Bengali's don't really like the Chinese very much at all,
or their cuisine. Well at least the ones I talk to. So I don't really think they would bother with their curry powder.
In my experience the main "curry powder" used in a Bengali restaurant "Mixed Powder" has
always been 'Madras Curry Powder" which is a historic spice blend of at least 12 spices, originally dating back to the 1800's
(Some people get confused with Madras Curry Powder, as its nothing to do with heat or Madras the Curry!)
A Typical Bengali Mixed Powder =
2 tsp Madras Curry Powder
2 tsp Turmeric Powder
1 tsp Coriander Powder
1 tsp Cumin Powder
1 tsp Paprika
0.5 tsp Garam Masala
Switching out Madras Curry Powder for Chinese Curry Powder, may be a fun experiment and give your home curry a twist,
but I doubt it would help you achieve an authentic Bengali Restaurant flavour,
As for Eastern Star, its probably a great Chinese Curry Powder and it will after all, have a blend of familiar Asian spices in it.
But there must be loads of other brands on the market.
I noticed, even in Aldi, they had there own branded (Pantry Essentials) Chinese Curry Powder,
can't remember the price, but probably cheap and packed in 250g packets.
Anyhoo have fun experimenting.
cheers Chewy
-
There seems to be a little confusion here : I understand the mix from IFINDFORU uses Eastern star powder mixed with others spices to complete the recipe
I never knew that BIRS use Chinese take away mixes
But thanks for posting the "missing link" recipe
-
Chinese Curry Powder
This still doesn't sit well with me, not saying its not a real practice in ifindforu's Welsh takeaway.
But I've got experience of over 50 BIRs here in the NE and I've never seen it happen. Another point is, as a rule Bengali's don't really like the Chinese very much at all,
or their cuisine. Well at least the ones I talk to. So I don't really think they would bother with their curry powder.
In my experience the main "curry powder" used in a Bengali restaurant "Mixed Powder" has
always been 'Madras Curry Powder" which is a historic spice blend of at least 12 spices, originally dating back to the 1800's
(Some people get confused with Madras Curry Powder, as its nothing to do with heat or Madras the Curry!)
A Typical Bengali Mixed Powder =
2 tsp Madras Curry Powder
2 tsp Turmeric Powder
1 tsp Coriander Powder
1 tsp Cumin Powder
1 tsp Paprika
0.5 tsp Garam Masala
Switching out Madras Curry Powder for Chinese Curry Powder, may be a fun experiment and give your home curry a twist,
but I doubt it would help you achieve an authentic Bengali Restaurant flavour,
As for Eastern Star, its probably a great Chinese Curry Powder and it will after all, have a blend of familiar Asian spices in it.
But there must be loads of other brands on the market.
I noticed, even in Aldi, they had there own branded (Pantry Essentials) Chinese Curry Powder,
can't remember the price, but probably cheap and packed in 250g packets.
Anyhoo have fun experimenting.
cheers Chewy
Chinese Curry Powder
This still doesn't sit well with me, not saying its not a real practice in ifindforu's Welsh takeaway.
But I've got experience of over 50 BIRs here in the NE and I've never seen it happen. Another point is, as a rule Bengali's don't really like the Chinese very much at all,
or their cuisine. Well at least the ones I talk to. So I don't really think they would bother with their curry powder.
In my experience the main "curry powder" used in a Bengali restaurant "Mixed Powder" has
always been 'Madras Curry Powder" which is a historic spice blend of at least 12 spices, originally dating back to the 1800's
(Some people get confused with Madras Curry Powder, as its nothing to do with heat or Madras the Curry!)
A Typical Bengali Mixed Powder =
2 tsp Madras Curry Powder
2 tsp Turmeric Powder
1 tsp Coriander Powder
1 tsp Cumin Powder
1 tsp Paprika
0.5 tsp Garam Masala
Switching out Madras Curry Powder for Chinese Curry Powder, may be a fun experiment and give your home curry a twist,
but I doubt it would help you achieve an authentic Bengali Restaurant flavour,
As for Eastern Star, its probably a great Chinese Curry Powder and it will after all, have a blend of familiar Asian spices in it.
But there must be loads of other brands on the market.
I noticed, even in Aldi, they had there own branded (Pantry Essentials) Chinese Curry Powder,
can't remember the price, but probably cheap and packed in 250g packets.
Anyhoo have fun experimenting.
cheers Chewy
Hi Chewy
I made a Curry for a pal and before he ate he asked if it was Indian Chinese Thai Vietnamese or Australian No wonder the chefs are getting confused
-
I agree with you chewy, I don't believe that 99.9% would use a Chinese based Curry Powder in there currys or spice mix's, I did ask Abdul this question and he said no, and doesn't know of any BIR chef's that do, Personally myself I would not use it either, Just my 2 penny's worth
Les
-
"Eastern Star Chinese Curry Powder"
This still doesn't sit well with me, not saying its not a real practice in interferer's Welsh takeaway.
But I've got experience of over 50 BI Rs here in the NE and I've never seen it happen. Another point is, as a rule Bengali's don't really like the Chinese very much at all,
or their cuisine. Well at least the ones I talk to. So I don't really think they would bother with their curry powder.
In my experience the main "curry powder" used in a Bengali restaurant "Mixed Powder" has
always been 'Madras Curry Powder" which is a historic spice blend of at least 12 spices, originally dating back to the 1800's
(Some people get confused with Madras Curry Powder, as its nothing to do with heat or Madras the Curry!)
A Typical Bengali Mixed Powder =
2 tsp Madras Curry Powder
2 tsp Turmeric Powder
1 tsp Coriander Powder
1 tsp Cumin Powder
1 tsp Paprika
0.5 tsp Ga ram Masala
Switching out Madras Curry Powder for Chinese Curry Powder, may be a fun experiment and give your home curry a twist,
but I doubt it would help you achieve an authentic Bengali Restaurant flavour,
As for Eastern Star, its probably a great Chinese Curry Powder and it will after all, have a blend of familiar Asian spices in it.
But there must be loads of other brands on the market.
I noticed, even in Aldi, they had there own branded (Pantry Essentials) Chinese Curry Powder,
can't remember the price, but probably cheap and packed in 250g packets.
Anyhoo have fun experimenting.
cheers Chewy
chewy the only thing that i can think is you only get what you pay for.Of course if there is no supploer in your area then the BIR would use their favorite tasting or smelling curry powder whether it be east end,natco,or an aldi brand ,theyl will give a curry.how good well that would be down to trial So because it is supplied by Globals of
cardiff eastern star is a top choice of curry powder in this neck of the woods, in our T/A the curry powder used was east end ,once he smelt eastern star he has stayed with it ,even though the most expensive powder
he tells me his custom has gone up I cant argue against that so if it improves the taste and smell of ones curry
then one would be happy,but cant be knocked if one hasn't tried it I disagree about obtaining the authentic
BIR taste because Ive achieved it with help of where i work He reveals his cooking methods and explains them to me because I'm a good friend of his. Most of the begalis i know call me brother i speak some Bengali as well I
see you have wrote a mix powder but does that achieve a authentic BIR or T/A NO Its all about getting on
the curry wagon and advancing forward BALA MOJAR
-
I'll give the jalpur garam masala a go first and then i'll try the eastern star curry powder. I've no intention of pooh poohing anything until i've tried it first. At the end of the day, if it delivers better results then i'll use it ;) . I will enquire from my two regular BIR's what curry powder they use in their mix powder and report back.
-
I'll give the jalpur garam masala a go first and then i'll try the eastern star curry powder. I've no intention of pooh poohing anything until i've tried it first. At the end of the day, if it delivers better results then i'll use it ;) . I will enquire from my two regular BIR's what curry powder they use in their mix powder and report back.
PM ME,GIVE ME YOUR ADDRESS AND ILL GIVE YOU SOME EASTERN STAR DO YOU HAVE JALPUR ? MONEY IS NO PROBLEM YOU CAN HAVE A FREEBY
-
I ordered some of this today from Ifind4you.Actually got to speak on the phone,very nice chap indeed...gonna throw in some of the elusive garam masala as well many thanks.I'm all set now spice mix,my new tandoori oven and I've ordered a nice new curry pan from Julian at Curry2go.
-
Update on E star curry powder
I asked the seller on a well known auction site what was added to this mix to make it indian here is the response
Jalpur Gala Masala Jeera Dhania Paprika Haldi and small bit of Chilly powder these are the exact words so who is copying who?
-
I would like to know what makes eastern Star CP, different to any of the other 10kg catering cp. It's not available here, but is at least 20% more expensive than Rajah Gold/ King Curry / Ship Brand etc. I would imagine it's superior somehow, going on the price alone. The catering brands are also unavailable in retail sizes/outlets, which leaves me wondering what they taste like(restaurant taste??), albeit it the small amounts used in a mix powder. Has anyone ever bought & used a 10kg catering CP for home use?
Regards
ELW
-
Update on E star curry powder
I asked the seller on a well known auction site what was added to this mix to make it indian here is the response
Jalpur Gala Masala Jeera Dhania Paprika Haldi and small bit of Chilly powder these are the exact words so who is copying who?
Not sure what you mean by this noble ox?
The ebay seller is Ifindforyou, hence the spice mix given is the same as posted on here by him.
Martin
-
I would like to know what makes eastern Star CP, different to any of the other 10kg catering cp. It's not available here, but is at least 20% more expensive than Rajah Gold/ King Curry / Ship Brand etc. I would imagine it's superior somehow, going on the price alone. The catering brands are also unavailable in retail sizes/outlets, which leaves me wondering what they taste like(restaurant taste??), albeit it the small amounts used in a mix powder. Has anyone ever bought & used a 10kg catering CP for home use?
Regards
ELW
Hi ELW
Repeating myself again, but still don't get the idea of using ES Chinese curry powder in BIR, but hey... :D
I can't imagine anybody buying a catering 10kg tin of curry powder for home use.
But very interesting you mention Ship brand MCP, where have you seen this for sale in the UK, I'd love to get hold of some,
purely nostalgia, because I remembered the big green tins in the restaurants when I was a kid, but couldn't remember the name
until I asked around a few old Chef/Owner's and they said it was Ship but they can't get it anymore and haven't for years.
For me this would fine tune and complete my 70's curry base ;)
cheers Chewy
-
Hi ELW,
I wrote to Eastern Star last month and this was the reply:
Hi Frank
Thank you for your interest in Eastern Star. Firstly could I ask you where you read the good reviews?
Eastern Star has been supplied to the Chinese wholesale market in the 10kg tin for over 40 years. We do not do this product in any other size. We are the largest curry supplier in the UK and produce curry powders for all of the major supermarkets. However the Eastern Star recipe is unique.
Do you require Eastern Star for personal or commercial use?
Thanks
Chris
Chris Tedore?
07769906468
British Pepper & Spice
www.britishpepper.co.uk (http://www.britishpepper.co.uk)
From: Sam Hills On Behalf Of Sales Mail Box
Sent: 19 December 2011 09:17
To: Chris Tedore
Subject: FW: Eastern Star Curry Powder
I didnt name any websites as there was some bitching going on at the time.
I didn't receive a follow-up. :(
If anyone else wants to probe further then go ahead. As they say up north "Shy Bairns get Nowt" ;)
Frank.
-
SHIP BRAND
Green Label
MADRAS CURRY POWDER
Coriander Seeds, Turmeric, Chillies, Cumin Seeds, Fenugreek Seeds, Fennel Seeds, Trifala & Nagkeser (Fragrant Spices), Cloves, Cassia, Garlic, Curry Leaves and Salt
-
Trifala - Natural Herbal Laxative and Colon Cleanser :P
-
Trifala - Natural Herbal Laxative and Colon Cleanser :P
OH yes, We need some of that ;D
Nagkesar Spice = cinnamon flower buds (dried)
-
I would like to know what makes eastern Star CP, different to any of the other 10kg catering cp. It's not available here, but is at least 20% more expensive than Rajah Gold/ King Curry / Ship Brand etc. I would imagine it's superior somehow, going on the price alone. The catering brands are also unavailable in retail sizes/outlets, which leaves me wondering what they taste like(restaurant taste??), albeit it the small amounts used in a mix powder. Has anyone ever bought & used a 10kg catering CP for home use?
Regards
ELW
Hi ELW
Repeating myself again, but still don't get the idea of using ES Chinese curry powder in BIR, but hey... :D
I can't imagine anybody buying a catering 10kg tin of curry powder for home use.
But very interesting you mention Ship brand MCP, where have you seen this for sale in the UK, I'd love to get hold of some,
purely nostalgia, because I remembered the big green tins in the restaurants when I was a kid, but couldn't remember the name
until I asked around a few old Chef/Owner's and they said it was Ship but they can't get it anymore and haven't for years.
For me this would fine tune and complete my 70's curry base ;)
cheers Chewy
Hi Chewytikka, it was in one of the Chinese/Asian c&c's in Glasgow, where I saw Ship Brand. I can't remember for sure, but it may have been Chans Ltd, Farnell Street, Glasgow. There's a few c&c's over there within walking distance. Rajah was the only brand of the 10kg's I'd even heard of there, (albeit Rajah Gold?? ) They looked like old motor oil containers! Ship Brand seems to have stuck in my mind for some reason & the green tins are ringing a bell. I'll maybe get there this weekend to check it out again
regards
ELW
-
Thanks ELW, be great to find if this is available.
Chans Ltd website is a bit 90's, just an overview etc... :-\
cheers Chewy
-
Update on E star curry powder
I asked the seller on a well known auction site what was added to this mix to make it indian here is the response
Jalpur Gala Masala Jeera Dhania Paprika Haldi and small bit of Chilly powder these are the exact words so who is copying who?
Hi Martin The name on the ebay is susypicknmix is that the same as ifindforu? if so I was not aware
Not sure what you mean by this noble ox?
The ebay seller is Ifindforyou, hence the spice mix given is the same as posted on here by him.
Martin
-
Yes mate, that be him. ;)
-
I would like to know what makes eastern Star CP, different to any of the other 10kg catering cp. It's not available here, but is at least 20% more expensive than Rajah Gold/ King Curry / Ship Brand etc. I would imagine it's superior somehow, going on the price alone. The catering brands are also unavailable in retail sizes/outlets, which leaves me wondering what they taste like(restaurant taste??), albeit it the small amounts used in a mix powder. Has anyone ever bought & used a 10kg catering CP for home use?
Regards
ELW
Hi ELW
Repeating myself again, but still don't get the idea of using ES Chinese curry powder in BIR, but hey... :D
I can't imagine anybody buying a catering 10kg tin of curry powder for home use.
But very interesting you mention Ship brand MCP, where have you seen this for sale in the UK, I'd love to get hold of some,
purely nostalgia, because I remembered the big green tins in the restaurants when I was a kid, but couldn't remember the name
until I asked around a few old Chef/Owner's and they said it was Ship but they can't get it anymore and haven't for years.
For me this would fine tune and complete my 70's curry base ;)
cheers Chewy
an excellent curry powder up north is Triton brand and i believe they sell that in 10 kilo tins and 2 1/2 kilo packs check it out
-
Thanks ELW, be great to find if this is available.
Chans Ltd website is a bit 90's, just an overview etc... :-\
cheers Chewy
Hey chewy why would the bir use ship brand,especialy coming from Chinese supliers i thought they don't get on with each other i dont see the reasoning