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Title: CA's Simple Mild Curry Base (aka "Base Gravy"/"Gravy"/"Base Sauce")
Post by: Cory Ander on December 30, 2011, 03:31 AM
I make this simple curry base primarily for use in simple, mild, curries (e.g. korma, tikka masala, etc).  But it is also fine to use in hotter and spicier curries (e.g. jalfrezi, madras, vindaloo, etc).

It is very simple to make and can be used whenever a recipe calls for a "curry base", "base sauce", "base gravy", "gravy", etc.

This recipe produces about 800ml of curry base, which is sufficient to make about 4 single portion curries.


Ingredients:


Method:


Notes:


Curry Base Before Blending:

(http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/imagehost/pics/b27d427ded889329abae6497eef1e28a.JPG) (http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/imagehost/#b27d427ded889329abae6497eef1e28a.JPG)

Curry Base After Blending:

(http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/imagehost/pics/ca7a94cbb26f243369243da175417c3b.JPG) (http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/imagehost/#ca7a94cbb26f243369243da175417c3b.JPG)
Title: Re: CA's Simple Mild Curry Base (aka "Base Gravy"/"Gravy"/"Base Sauce")
Post by: loveitspicy on December 30, 2011, 09:12 AM
loooooooking gooooood!

All the best, Rich
Title: Re: CA's Simple Mild Curry Base (aka "Base Gravy"/"Gravy"/"Base Sauce")
Post by: Ramirez on January 04, 2012, 06:37 PM
Do you feel this improves on your original base? Having made CTMs with your original base, I wouldn't consider it, in any way, unsuitable for milder dishes - what makes this one more suitable?
Title: Re: CA's Simple Mild Curry Base (aka "Base Gravy"/"Gravy"/"Base Sauce")
Post by: Cory Ander on January 05, 2012, 03:01 AM
Do you feel this improves on your original base? Having made CTMs with your original base, I wouldn't consider it, in any way, unsuitable for milder dishes - what makes this one more suitable?

Good questions Ramirez.

No, I don't think it necessarily improves (taste wise, etc) upon my original curry base but, together with my recent "Simple Mild Masala", "Simple Chicken Korma" and "Simple Chicken Tikka Masala" recipes, it's simpler (i.e. fewer ingredients, quicker to make and smaller volume).

My "Simple Mild Masala" (here: http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/curry/index.php?topic=7641.0 (http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/curry/index.php?topic=7641.0)) contains only 4 ingredients.  It takes literally a few minutes to make (only 30 seconds, if roasting and grinding isn't done).

My "Simple Chicken Korma" recipe (here:  http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/curry/index.php?topic=7652.0 (http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/curry/index.php?topic=7652.0)) and my "Simple Chicken Tikka Masala" recipe (here: http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/curry/index.php?topic=7662.0 (http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/curry/index.php?topic=7662.0)),  contain only 10 ingredients each

This curry base contains only 8 ingredients (including the oil and the water).  It takes less than 1 hour to make.

My hope is that some members will try these simpler recipes, particularly, perhaps, when embarking upon their BIR curry making journeys.  I think many people are put off by the myriad (and often hard to get and specialised) ingredients, excessive volumes and considerable time it takes to prepare the more elaborate recipes on the forum.

My other hope is that some of our more experienced members will reflect on how great tasting curries can still be made using few (easy to get and nonspecialist) ingredients and simple, quick, recipes.

The result is quite surprising!  This base has a well rounded taste and smell that many other curry bases don't have.  It has no unwanted undertones that more complex curry bases my have.  It also seems to freeze better (some acquire a distinctive "old onions" smell about them, I find).

Anyhow, for it's simplicity, it is capable of producing very tasty BIR-like curries.
Title: Re: CA's Simple Mild Curry Base (aka "Base Gravy"/"Gravy"/"Base Sauce")
Post by: alarmist10 on January 05, 2012, 05:38 AM

It is very simple to make

This recipe produces about 800ml of curry base, which is sufficient to make about 4 single portion curries.

It is really good to see someone bringing simplicity back into the kitchen - there's a reason why K.I.S.S. has lasted for such a long time!!  And I'm sure this will be a useful start for those experimenting for the first time but who want to get a pointer that they are on their way to creating a BIR at home.  I remember many years ago being put off when I saw Kris Dhillon's base for the first time.  Do I blend the water in with the onions....and so on!  It put me off - and set back my efforts to produce a BIR curry by years!!  So well done, CA.

On a personal note, and being a true gravy person, I'd reckon on 800ml being enough for 3 single portions....but there again, I love my Madras to be "swimming"!!!!

al.
Title: Re: CA's Simple Mild Curry Base (aka "Base Gravy"/"Gravy"/"Base Sauce")
Post by: Ramirez on January 06, 2012, 12:23 PM

My hope is that some members will try these simpler recipes, particularly, perhaps, when embarking upon their BIR curry making journeys.  I think many people are put off by the myriad (and often hard to get and specialised) ingredients, excessive volumes and considerable time it takes to prepare the more elaborate recipes on the forum.


A very worthwhile aim. I think your recipes are probably the most user friendly on the site and the perfect starting point for a beginner. Be interesting to see the feedback on this base.
Title: Re: CA's Simple Mild Curry Base (aka "Base Gravy"/"Gravy"/"Base Sauce")
Post by: spiceyokooko on January 06, 2012, 03:48 PM
Cory

I think this is an excellent idea, to introduce a relatively simple 'curry gravy' that doesn't use lots of complex ingredients and is relatively simple to produce as a very good introduction to BIR curry making to forum newcomers.

Just one question if I may. For some odd reason, I've got it into my mind from somewhere that ginger and garlic should be pureed with water and added to the base like that, rather than as whole chopped ingredients and that's the way I've always made my own base gravys. I think this came from Bruce Edwards who felt that garlic and ginger lost some of their flavour and pungency if added without being pureed first.

What's your view on this?
Title: Re: CA's Simple Mild Curry Base (aka "Base Gravy"/"Gravy"/"Base Sauce")
Post by: curryhell on January 06, 2012, 07:57 PM
I think your recipes are probably the most user friendly on the site and the perfect starting point for a beginner. Be interesting to see the feedback on this base.
Totally agree Ramirez.  They are very clear,concise and logical and very easy to follow.  Only when you try to write a recipe yourself do you realise that there is indeed a skill to it.  I discovered this when i was writing up my North Indian Special dish.  Well written recipes are taken for granted until you happen across one that is written devoid of the attributes above >:(.  Only then do you appreciate the efforts of the originator.  And that's before you even get to cook the damn dish ;D
Title: Re: CA's Simple Mild Curry Base (aka "Base Gravy"/"Gravy"/"Base Sauce")
Post by: DalPuri on January 08, 2012, 12:58 PM
Great little base CA.
word of warning to others who make it., Use a jug blender, liquidiser or a tall saucepan to blend. ;)
a hand blender and a small amount of liquid in a shallow saucepan equals disaster :P
OUCH!  Lesson learnt
Title: Re: CA's Simple Mild Curry Base (aka "Base Gravy"/"Gravy"/"Base Sauce")
Post by: Cory Ander on January 09, 2012, 08:59 AM
Just one question if I may. For some odd reason, I've got it into my mind from somewhere that ginger and garlic should be pureed with water and added to the base like that, rather than as whole chopped ingredients and that's the way I've always made my own base gravys. I think this came from Bruce Edwards who felt that garlic and ginger lost some of their flavour and pungency if added without being pureed first.

What's your view on this?

Hi Spicey,

Yes, I recall that too.  Though I don't recall Bruce saying why.  I can't think why.

In my opinion, it's probably a bit like the "sweetness of whole versus chopped onions" debate.  In practice, I doubt you'd ever tell the difference (even if there may be some science/rationale behind it).  That's my view, anyway.

I also think that BIRs will generally take the most expedient/lazy route and avoid chopping, etc, where they really don't need to (i.e. to save time).

I think the advantage you have, from what I've seen, is that you (like me and some others here) will question WHY it may (or may not) be the case.  I would certainly endorse the questioning approach, rather than follow the "monkey see, monkey do" approach.  All sorts of weird and wonderful (and probably erroneous) practices become entrenched otherwise ;)
Title: Re: CA's Simple Mild Curry Base (aka "Base Gravy"/"Gravy"/"Base Sauce")
Post by: Cory Ander on January 09, 2012, 09:00 AM
Great little base CA.
word of warning to others who make it., Use a jug blender, liquidiser or a tall saucepan to blend. ;)
a hand blender and a small amount of liquid in a shallow saucepan equals disaster :P
OUCH!  Lesson learnt

Words to the wise, indeed, DP!

Even when cool, it's best not to fill the jug blender beyond half full.  And best not to do it when hot (or even warm) or it will spurt everywhere!  :P
Title: Re: CA's Simple Mild Curry Base (aka "Base Gravy"/"Gravy"/"Base Sauce")
Post by: PaulP on March 15, 2012, 08:39 PM
I've just knocked up a double version of this base. Well it was almost to spec:

All ingredients were just doubled except-

Garlic 22 grams
Ginger 18 grams
Fresh coriander stalks 12 grams

Not in recipe but I added 1 tbs tomato puree.

TBH if I'd had a pepper and carrots in the house I probably would have added a little of those.
The mix powder was ifindforu "secret" mix powder.

Anyway, I was very pleased with the ease of cooking. The finished volume was 1.6 litres and it blended easy and smooth. I did cook the blended base gently for about 15 minutes.

So far looking good, it tastes sweet and quite nice although not as full on as the last base I cooked which was the ifindforu base.

I'll make a simple chicken madras later tonight and will judge it then.

Cheers

Paul

Edit: Just re-tasting the base it is probably the sweetest base I've ever made. It will be interesting making a curry later on but first I need a shower.
Title: Re: CA's Simple Mild Curry Base (aka "Base Gravy"/"Gravy"/"Base Sauce")
Post by: PaulP on March 16, 2012, 01:20 PM
Well the base produced a very tasty curry indeed.

It was a near perfect curry (for me) with just a taste that I can't put my finger on that I would have preferred less of. I get this taste with other base recipes too. It could be too much garlic or methi - I'll eat the rest tonight.
I did take a couple of photos but they're still on the camera.

So big thanks to CA although I did modify the recipe slightly I would recommend it and in future I might stick to smaller scaled down base recipes.

Cheers

Paul
Title: Re: CA's Simple Mild Curry Base (aka "Base Gravy"/"Gravy"/"Base Sauce")
Post by: ac3sup on April 10, 2012, 04:27 PM
Your intentions are evident in me , I love curry spesh Indian and I joined the forum in an attempt to make my own and have used your "simple" recipes so far to make some lovely furrows lol thank you and keep it up  :P
Title: Re: CA's Simple Mild Curry Base (aka "Base Gravy"/"Gravy"/"Base Sauce")
Post by: ELW on April 10, 2012, 04:37 PM
Your intentions are evident in me , I love curry spesh Indian and I joined the forum in an attempt to make my own and have used your "simple" recipes so far to make some lovely furrows lol thank you and keep it up  :P

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Title: Re: CA's Simple Mild Curry Base (aka "Base Gravy"/"Gravy"/"Base Sauce")
Post by: Cory Ander on April 11, 2012, 08:08 AM
Hi ELW,

I was also a little puzzled about ac3sup's post, at first (if puzzled is what you are?), but, on rereading it, I presume ac3sup means:


At least that's what I THINK ac3sup means!  :P
Title: Re: CA's Simple Mild Curry Base (aka "Base Gravy"/"Gravy"/"Base Sauce")
Post by: ELW on April 11, 2012, 08:02 PM
Hi ELW,

I was also a little puzzled about ac3sup's post, at first (if puzzled is what you are?), but, on rereading it, I presume ac3sup means:

  • "Your intention is evident in me" - ac3sup is new to BIR cooking and decided to use these simple recipes as a starting point (and one of my intentions was to keep these recipes simple for people new to BIR cooking)
  • "Make some lovely furrows" - ac3sup has, by trying these simple recipes, made a good start to his BIR cooking venture (tilling the land, sowing seeds, reaping the harvest, etc)

At least that's what I THINK ac3sup means!  :P
I'm no Shakespeare CA, but it says "lol" in there. I thought it was semi - spam!

ELW
Title: Re: CA's Simple Mild Curry Base (aka "Base Gravy"/"Gravy"/"Base Sauce")
Post by: mr.mojorisin on April 11, 2012, 08:12 PM
love curry spesh indian

roughly translated...he loves a curry, especially Indian :)
Title: Re: CA's Simple Mild Curry Base (aka "Base Gravy"/"Gravy"/"Base Sauce")
Post by: ELW on April 11, 2012, 08:53 PM
if thats what ac3sup meant, then I hope he/she posts more often, it's a classic  :)