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Curry Chat => Talk About Anything Other Than Curry => Topic started by: Curry Barking Mad on July 21, 2011, 08:31 PM
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The thought had struck me recently....
Would you invite a cantankerous, over opinionated misery to dinner?
Not likely.
Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental. ;D
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The thought had struck me recently....
Would you invite a cantankerous, over opinionated misery to dinner?
Not likely.
Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental. ;D
I would, the comedy element would be too much for me to resist. Some of the funniest people I know are proper miserable bleeders, they just don't realise that they're funny.
Ray ;D
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Nice one Mick ;D
Paul
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Do you have any particular person in mind Mick?
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Do you have any particular person in mind Mick?
Now that would be telling Stephen ;D
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Earlier this evening I suggested opening a thread about whether to invite a vegetarian to dinner. Can't you think of anything more original for your own thread?
Anyway, as a result of the recent attacks, I've decided it will be far too risky to attend the barbecue organised by Chris, as much as I was genuinely looking forward to it.
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Earlier this evening I suggested opening a thread about whether to invite a vegetarian to dinner. Can't you think of anything more original for your own thread?
Sorry George,
I thought this was original, in the fact, that it has nothing to do with vegetarians. ::)
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Earlier this evening I suggested opening a thread about whether to invite a vegetarian to dinner. Can't you think of anything more original for your own thread?
Sorry George,
I thought this was original, in the fact, that it has nothing to do with vegetarians. ::)
CBM
You know full well that in creating this thread you had at least two objectives:
1. To beat me to it in launching a thread about dinner invitations. You effectively stole my idea in a sneaky, underhand way.
2. To launch a very rude personal attack on me. Yes, it is aimed at me alone, whereas my comment/opinion about vegetarians applies to millions of people - a huge group, and I know that many people finding that cooking for them creates disproportionate effort, if everyone else is eating meat-based dishes. I've got nothing against vegetarians as people. I just wouldn't want to invite them to dinner. I suggest that's different to you and a few other trouble-makers making personal attacks on me, just because you disagree with my point of view and want to stir up trouble rather than have a debate about vegetarians.
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Anyway, as a result of the recent attacks, I've decided it will be far too risky to attend the barbecue organised by Chris, as much as I was genuinely looking forward to it.
Risky? why on earth would it be risky? its going to be a fun BBQ.
I don't see any one on the attendees list giving you any cause for concern.
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I think somebody needs to grow a sense of humour and lighten up a bit.
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Earlier this evening I suggested opening a thread about whether to invite a vegetarian to dinner. Can't you think of anything more original for your own thread?
Sorry George,
I thought this was original, in the fact, that it has nothing to do with vegetarians. ::)
CBM
You know full well that in creating this thread you had at least two objectives:
1. To beat me to it in launching a thread about dinner invitations. You effectively stole my idea in a sneaky, underhand way.
2. To launch a very rude personal attack on me. Yes, it is aimed at me alone, whereas my comment/opinion about vegetarians applies to millions of people - a huge group, and I know that many people finding that cooking for them creates disproportionate effort, if everyone else is eating meat-based dishes. I've got nothing against vegetarians as people. I just wouldn't want to invite them to dinner. I suggest that's different to you and a few other trouble-makers making personal attacks on me, just because you disagree with my point of view and want to stir up trouble rather than have a debate about vegetarians.
George,
Heaven forbid, I stole your idea, nothing stopping you from doing it....sneaky, underhand, grow up ::)
A very rude, personal attack...hmmm...I don't think so.
It's not about disagreeing with your point of view, George, maybe it's more about the way you go about making it.
What I will say is this....some people could benefit from the enlightenment gained from the removal of their own head from their own personal dark space.
My personal views and comments may not represent the views held by other users of the forum.
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Anyway, as a result of the recent attacks, I've decided it will be far too risky to attend the barbecue organised by Chris, as much as I was genuinely looking forward to it.
Risky? why on earth would it be risky? its going to be a fun BBQ.
I don't see any one on the attendees list giving you any cause for concern.
Indirectly, martinvic, CBM and one or two others have created a situation whereby I no longer feel comfortable going to a barbecue which I was really looking forward to, and already had quite a few arrangements in place for. It was so good of Chris to arrange it and I'm sure it will be a first class event. But given that so many people seem to want to launch a personal attack on me, I'm really not sure of the reception I'd get. That's why it's too risky.
I stated that I would find inviting a vegetarian to dinner a pain. It's just my opinion. This prompted martinvic to say I wasn't fit to be a moderator and then CBM started this thread with a very personal attack.
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George, you started all this with your generalised comments about vegetarians which some people would have found personally insulting.
Then you go on to over react and moan about personal attacks against you.
Then you announce (more than once) that you won't be going to the cr0 barbeque.
Try to lighten up a bit and understand why your original comments about vegetarians seemed a bit extreme to some of us.
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Got nothing against vegetarians myself but what does annoy me is when you have a party of carnivores with just one vegetarian present who will refuse to eat anything other then an 'of menu' special vegetarian dish that you have to go out of way to provide. Whereas when its the other way around and you are the only carnivore they will not provide you with an 'of menu' meat dish of your own - you just have to starve or turn into a vegetarian.
Bon gosht
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Got nothing against vegetarians myself but what does annoy me is when you have a party of carnivores with just one vegetarian present who will refuse to eat anything other then an 'of menu' special vegetarian dish that you have to go out of way to provide. Whereas when its the other way around and you are the only carnivore they will not provide you with an 'of menu' meat dish of your own - you just have to starve or turn into a vegetarian.
There is, unfortunately, some truth in that, but on the other hand, you, I, George et al have no philosophical objections to killing, preparing, cooking and eating vegetables, whereas most vegetarians that I know do have real problems with the whole concept of animal-as-food, so it is hardly surprising that they are not willing to compromise their principles and cook you a roast ox or whatever ...
** Phil.
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Got nothing against vegetarians myself but what does annoy me is when you have a party of carnivores with just one vegetarian present who will refuse to eat anything other then an 'of menu' special vegetarian dish that you have to go out of way to provide. Whereas when its the other way around and you are the only carnivore they will not provide you with an 'of menu' meat dish of your own - you just have to starve or turn into a vegetarian.
Bon gosht
The difference being that a meat-eater can eat a vegetarian dish, whereas a vegetarian cannot eat a meat-based dish.
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Try to lighten up a bit and understand why your original comments about vegetarians seemed a bit extreme to some of us.
How would you like it if anyone launched a new thread (this one) with the sole objective of insulting you and encouraging others to do the same.
I know my original comment about vegetarians was very critical of them, in the way that Coogan now describes, but why should that prompt so many others to launch personal attacks against me, rather than argue/debate why they love cooking extra dishes for just one vegetarian in a group of 5 or 6?
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Got nothing against vegetarians myself but what does annoy me is when you have a party of carnivores with just one vegetarian present who will refuse to eat anything other then an 'of menu' special vegetarian dish that you have to go out of way to provide. Whereas when its the other way around and you are the only carnivore they will not provide you with an 'of menu' meat dish of your own - you just have to starve or turn into a vegetarian.
Bon gosht
Here here coogan
I was stuck with some vegetarian nut log thingy not so long ago - AWFUL to say the least - and i do like eating veg!!! Chicken, Fish, Pork, Lamb but not beef!! and not so much lamb these days - cost too much here!
In reality cooking for ONE veggie does cause "disproportionate effort" in most cases as George rightly pointed out - as far as all the personal comments about each other - it seems there is an underlying rift like on most forums!!!! a lot of do gooders and follow my lead sheep
Say what insults you will in return to my comments - everyone is entitled to have opinion thats what makes the world go round - by heck it would be boring if we all were programed to say and do the same as everyone else.
And yes im new to this forum - and to be honest, holds a wealth of information and talent for making curries - to which we all enjoy.
I hope to make regular contributions to the forum and the recipes without being shunned and put down - i havent yet but i feel by agreeing with some of the comments it will be only time - which would be a great shame.
Long live curry making!!
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George,
You had what I thought would be your last word about my so called 'rude,insulting personal attack' earlier in this thread but clearly that wasn't enough for you. I was quite happy to leave it there but as you are hell bent on trying to portray yourself as some kind of victim I had to respond.
It was never my sole objective to insult you but to state what I believe your attitude and behaviour displays about you. You do come across as a cantankerous misery.
I don't believe I have encouraged anyone to do anything....
I will say this, which I think is very apt. This from a PM I received this morning...
You can throw the ball George but you can't catch it.
My last word.
I thank you.
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Back to what originally prompted this thread...catering for vegetarians....
....I believe that anyone cooking for anyone else has to be sensitive to their preferences and needs........IF they want them to enjoy their meal (a big IF, for some, perhaps?). It seems to me that it's simply common courtesy that comes with being "a host"...and I think it applies to ANY cooking, not just curries.
Regarding curries, even within the family context, if I cook one, solely for myself, I cook a stinky hot one (e.g. a vindaloo or phal). But my wife doesn't like them as hot as me, so I generally cook milder curries (e.g. madras, jalfrezi, etc) for her. I then "spice" them up for myself. Our children prefer even milder curries (e.g. CTM and Korma) so I often cook these, if they are having some.
My wife doesn't eat red meat, so I generally make chicken or prawn curries. I prefer red meat (e.g. lamb), so I occasionally cook a stinky hot lamb curry just for me (yes, selfish, I know).
We have friends that like red meat but not lamb, so, if we're entertaining, I don't cook lamb for them. We have Muslim friends, so I don't cook pork for them. We have friends that prefer vegetables, so I cook vegetables for them. We have friends that aren't too keen on coloured (or pilau, or fried) rice, so I also make plain, uncoloured rice. We have friends that love onion bhajis, so I make those for them...etc, etc.
If we're entertaining, I try to cater for everyone's tastes by providing a variety of dishes that I know they will enjoy (at least one or two or the dishes, if not all of them).
Is this a faff? Perhaps, but not for me. I derive satisfaction from knowing that they have enjoyed their meal to the fullest. And to achieve this I try to cater for their needs.
I reckon it's probably called being a good and considerate host?
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I could not have put it better myself, CA! I have been forced by the wife to cook my lamb outside in the slow cooker because it makes the house smell!!! She would certainly not be invited to any of my dinner parties ;D
Barry
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It was never my sole objective to insult you but to state what I believe your attitude and behaviour displays about you. You do come across as a cantankerous misery.
I wasn't singling anyone out (initially) like you've done. You're well out of order. How this sits with the huge contribution you've made to the BIR cause (videos etc) I don't know.
Come on George, Let it go,
Ref your comment...It hasn't stopped me sleeping at night ;D
Do us all a favour and stop trying to bait me, move on old son.
@ CA,
A good post and one that I believe sums up the feelings of most people when it comes to catering and entertaining friends and family, be they vegetarians or of different religions.
Mick
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@ CA,
A good post and one that I believe sums up the feelings of most people when it comes to catering and entertaining friends and family, be they vegetarians or of different religions.
Mick
Here, here. Can we now move on please and do what this site does best (although just occasionally the discussion gets derailed) - talk about the one thing that brought us all here in the first place - our love of BIR food and our search to perfect our skills and knowledge.
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Fair points that I agree with 100 per cent and practise myself CA but in the same feign I believe vegetarians should make available meat dishes if the majority of quests are carnivorous - even if they have to don gloves and nose peg if necessary. It's just about good hosting - all vegetarians that I have come across just appear to think that they are excluded from this or just do not feel as if they need to go out their way like they expect us carnivorous folk to do.
Bon hosting
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Fair points that I agree with 100 per cent and practise myself CA but in the same feign I believe vegetarians should make available meat dishes if the majority of quests are carnivorous - even if they have to don gloves and nose peg if necessary. It's just about good hosting - all vegetarians that I have come across just appear to think that they are excluded from this or just do not feel as if they need to go out their way like they expect us carnivorous folk to do.
I strongly disagree. Let us suppose that you were Korean, and ate dog as a normal part of your diet : would you really expect that if you were invited to dinner at the home of some of your British friends, they would serve dog meat to you ? I suspect not : you would (I think) fully understand that whilst it might be considered acceptable to eat dog meat in Korea, the British attitude to dogs is very different.
Vegetarians are, in the main, vegetarians because they disagree with the idea that animals are food; it would be, in my opinion, just as unreasonable to expect them to forget their principles and serve something that they would not eat themselves (meat) as it would be to expect the average British dog-lover to serve dog.
** Phil.
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It just does not cut the fat with me. I know several strict vegetarians that work all day long in kitchens making, preparing and cooking meat dishes - here they appear to be able to put their principles to one side. But suddenly when they host their own party they cannot bare to even mention the word meat yet alone cook with it for anyone else to enjoy - its just selfish in my opinion.
Bon gosht
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It just does not cut the fat with me. I know several strict vegetarians that work all day long in kitchens making, preparing and cooking meat dishes - here they appear to be able to put their principles to one side. But suddenly when they host their own party they cannot bare to even mention the word meat yet alone cook with it for anyone else to enjoy - its just selfish in my opinion.
OK, in the interests of harmony and conflict avoidance, let's agree to differ. I don't personally regard it as selfish at all -- just being consistent with their beliefs -- but if you think of it as being selfish, I accept that as your opinion.
Incidentally, I do find it odd that a vegetarian who is such because he/she does not agree with eating animals can work in a kitchen "making, preparing and cooking meat dishes" : although not strictly analogous, I knew a strict Muslim who was so offended by the thought of pork that if he knew that it was on display in a supermarket or a butcher's shop, he felt it necessary to circle around the display so as not to get anywhere near it.
** Phil.
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My reference to vegetarians was really aimed at the 'cool to be a veggie when its suits us brigade' rather than vegetarians with genuine religious doctrines against eating, touching or even associating themselves in anyway with meat or particular types of meat. Obviously I would agree with your reasonings in these circumstances. Conflict avoidance or not.
Bon jovi