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Title: Why take 2 stockpots into the kitchen?
Post by: natterjak on March 18, 2011, 09:35 AM
I'm just making up my first batch of Ashoka base and have loaded up my el cheapo 8l stockpot with onions and water.  Trouble is I could only cram in 2.25kg of onions, so my quantities for the rest of the recipe are out.  Not necessarily a problem but if I get into this curry lark on a regular basis I'll want to cook bigger batches of base sauce and freeze in portions.   

I do have another 5l stockpot, so I guess I could make a larger batch split between 2 pots but I'm thinking this may introduce some inconsistency in the resulting sauce, so I might have to invest in a larger stock pot.

I found this thread (http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/curry/index.php?topic=3798.0), discussing stock pot recommendations and have been hunting around Amazon.  This one  (http://www.amazon.co.uk/BUCKINGHAM-INDUCTION-DEEP-STOCK-Ltr/dp/B003DCA7XM/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8&qid=1300440182&sr=8-16)looks like a reasonable size (17l) with a thick base but I'm wondering about the "dishwasher safe" bit, surely you couldn't fit something that size into a dishwasher.  Anyone want to recommend their favourite stockpot before I go and buy the wrong thing?
Title: Re: Why take 2 stockpots into the kitchen?
Post by: solarsplace on March 18, 2011, 09:42 AM
Hi

These are good! fairly inexpensive too. Far too big for my dishwasher though. I just wash it in the sink.

http://www.catering-suppliers.com/cgi-bin/2008productView.cgi?prodID=103 (http://www.catering-suppliers.com/cgi-bin/2008productView.cgi?prodID=103)

All the best
Title: Re: Why take 2 stockpots into the kitchen?
Post by: Malc. on March 18, 2011, 10:08 AM
Crikey you don't mess about do you! 8 litres of base would give you at least 26 portions allowing for 300ml per portion.  Is that not enough? :o

I'm just jealous as I don't have a freezer big enough.  ;)

Is this your first base?
Title: Re: Why take 2 stockpots into the kitchen?
Post by: natterjak on March 18, 2011, 11:15 AM
Hi

These are good! fairly inexpensive too. Far too big for my dishwasher though. I just wash it in the sink.

http://www.catering-suppliers.com/cgi-bin/2008productView.cgi?prodID=103 (http://www.catering-suppliers.com/cgi-bin/2008productView.cgi?prodID=103)

All the best

Thanks Axe, which size from that range do you use?
Title: Re: Why take 2 stockpots into the kitchen?
Post by: natterjak on March 18, 2011, 11:18 AM
Crikey you don't mess about do you! 8 litres of base would give you at least 26 portions allowing for 300ml per portion.  Is that not enough? :o

Ha, just following the recipe!  I haven't actually gotten around to thinking about how much base results from it, just chucking in ingredients as I go...

I'm just jealous as I don't have a freezer big enough.  ;)

Hmm, freezer - good point.  I've just looked at mine and it's already stacked with stuff   :o  I wonder how I'm going to use up all this base  :-\  Erm, anyone for curry round my place this weekend!!?


Is this your first base?

First since my adventures with the Kris Dhillon recipes years ago.  I thought I'd start with the Ashoka recipes as they have a good rep around here.
Title: Re: Why take 2 stockpots into the kitchen?
Post by: solarsplace on March 18, 2011, 11:22 AM
Hi

These are good! fairly inexpensive too. Far too big for my dishwasher though. I just wash it in the sink.

http://www.catering-suppliers.com/cgi-bin/2008productView.cgi?prodID=103 (http://www.catering-suppliers.com/cgi-bin/2008productView.cgi?prodID=103)

All the best

Thanks Axe, which size from that range do you use?

Hi

I assume you meant me?

Anyway, I have a 17 litre one - which for the budding BIR home amateur chef is more than enough!

There is always lots of free space left in the pot, however it has the added benefit of being able to get in there and 'give it large' with the stick blender with no risk of splashing gravy round the kitchen  ;D

Cheers
Title: Re: Why take 2 stockpots into the kitchen?
Post by: natterjak on March 18, 2011, 11:30 AM
Hi

These are good! fairly inexpensive too. Far too big for my dishwasher though. I just wash it in the sink.

http://www.catering-suppliers.com/cgi-bin/2008productView.cgi?prodID=103 (http://www.catering-suppliers.com/cgi-bin/2008productView.cgi?prodID=103)

All the best

Thanks Axe, which size from that range do you use?

Hi

I assume you meant me?


Erm, yeah - Axe is my new pet name for you.  To avoid confusion I'll be calling Axe "Solarsplace" from now on...  :-*
Title: Re: Why take 2 stockpots into the kitchen?
Post by: Malc. on March 18, 2011, 11:38 AM
Erm, anyone for curry round my place this weekend!!?

Lol, your gonna be busy this weekend huh!  :D :P

The only reason I mentioned the quantities is that it might be better for you to make smaller quantities until such time you find a base that you really like.

As I said, I am not in  position to make large amounts. The Taz base recipe being my limits to the amount I can knock up at any one time and have frozen in portions.

The upside is that once one base is done, I can alternate to another. For example, I quite like the Balti taste that the Kushi base and spice mix offers so will alternate between that and others.

Cheers,

Malc. :)
Title: Re: Why take 2 stockpots into the kitchen?
Post by: Peripatetic Phil on March 18, 2011, 11:42 AM
I normally make about four pints, half of which will end up in the freezer and half will live in the 'fridge until it is all used up.  Perhaps for those with large families this would be too little, but for just Khanh & I it seems quite sufficient.

** Phil.
Title: Re: Why take 2 stockpots into the kitchen?
Post by: solarsplace on March 18, 2011, 11:58 AM
Hi natterjak

I may have been telling you a load of BS by accident.

Just spoke to a colleague who bought his stock pot at the same time as me and he is sure they are something like 12 or 14 litres, so perhaps it was not that exact model we got? - I seem to have collected 3 different sized pots some with metal and some with glass lids and they all do the job. It was a couple of years ago, and I saved that site in my favourite sellers records. Anyway even a 12 to 14 litre one would be more than enough room!

I think as long as you don't by a proper el-cheapo one for
Title: Re: Why take 2 stockpots into the kitchen?
Post by: natterjak on March 18, 2011, 12:16 PM
Cheers guys, I'll wait till I've plugged through this current batch of base sauce (which is probably about 7 litres in my 8 litre stockpot) and will then take a view on whether I really need to make bigger batches.

I've just finished the blending stage (5 loads for my poor old jug blender) and have the blended base coming back up to the boil on the hob.  I'm leaving the lid off at this stage to let it reduce a bit, it all helps with the storage.

Q which is doubtless OT for this thread, Panpots Ashoka recipe doesn't mention skimming the base sauce while it simmers, but I remember Kris Dhillon used to insist this was important.  Do you skim your base or not?
Title: Re: Why take 2 stockpots into the kitchen?
Post by: Stephen Lindsay on March 18, 2011, 12:18 PM
Natterjack

I reduce my quantities by a third when making Ashoka base - here is my reduced spec. Note that the salt and cumin content are further reduced, based on feedback from members on this site.

PANPOT
Title: Re: Why take 2 stockpots into the kitchen?
Post by: Peripatetic Phil on March 18, 2011, 12:39 PM
Q which is doubtless OT for this thread, Panpots Ashoka recipe doesn't mention skimming the base sauce while it simmers, but I remember Kris Dhillon used to insist this was important.  Do you skim your base or not?
No, nor did I skim Kris Dhillon's base after the first batch; as far as I can tell, it makes little or no difference to the flavour.

** Phil.
Title: Re: Why take 2 stockpots into the kitchen?
Post by: Curry Barking Mad on March 18, 2011, 01:00 PM
Q which is doubtless OT for this thread, Panpots Ashoka recipe doesn't mention skimming the base sauce while it simmers, but I remember Kris Dhillon used to insist this was important.  Do you skim your base or not?
No, nor did I skim Kris Dhillon's base after the first batch; as far as I can tell, it makes little or no difference to the flavour.

** Phil.

I don't skim off either, I think you lose too much of the flavoured oil this way as there is a lot of oil in this bubbly emulsion.
Mick
Title: Re: Why take 2 stockpots into the kitchen?
Post by: Razor on March 18, 2011, 02:32 PM
Hi NJ,

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I'm just making up my first batch of Ashoka base and have loaded up my el cheapo 8l stockpot with onions and water.  Trouble is I could only cram in 2.25kg of onions

2.25kg of onions shouldn't fill an 8 litre pot mate?  Are you sure that you've got your weights correct NJ.

I should point out that I've not yet looked at the Ashoka base but even if you left them whole, an 8 litre pot should be fine, I would have thought.  Suppose it depends on how small you chop them I guess?

Ray :)
Title: Re: Why take 2 stockpots into the kitchen?
Post by: natterjak on March 18, 2011, 04:47 PM
Hi Ray,

I'm sure of my weights and the onions were quartered, but the recipe I followed said top up water 2inches above the level of the onions which is where I probably went awry as the onions floated!  So I probably ended up with too much water in there.  Plus of course I didn't brim the pot, I must have had a litre of space at the top there.