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Curry Chat => Talk About Anything Other Than Curry => Topic started by: Domi on December 08, 2010, 05:20 PM
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Just as the title says.....I've got my brother coming to Chrissy dinner and he's a fairly new convert to vegetarianism (he does still eat fish though). Can anyone recommend (or preferably provide ;D ) a good recipe alternative to Turkey/Goose please.
Any help will be very much appreciated :)
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Just chuck a Salmon at him.
Or there's that poxy vegetarian meatloaf stuff the undernourished eat to try and convince themselves that they don't need meat.
Beans on toast?
Feed him turkey and tell its flavoured Tofu.
Tofu.
Lentil casserole.
Lentils.
Just tell him to sod off and enjoy meat.
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Can anyone recommend (or preferably provide ;D ) a good recipe alternative to Turkey/Goose please.
Since this is a BIR forum, there is only one possible answer : Masala Dosa. I am a 100% died-in-the-wool carnivore, but I swear I could live on Masala Dosa for a month and never once miss the flavour and texture of meat.
** Phil.
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I don't believe that, even veggies miss the flavour of fried bacon, they even have veggie alternatives to the stuff.
I just don't like veggies, they are probably the worlds biggest hypocrites, they don't eat meat but eat meat flavoured substitutes for meat. Thats just mental.
And they try and force their beliefs onto you like they're on some silly sort of holy war, getting points for conversions.
And if you have a veggie round for dinner you have to go out of your way to find em something veggie to eat, putting yourself out for them. Yet if you go round to their house for a meal would they cook you a nice Bloody red steak with a nice big lump of juicy fat running around the egde of it and just slightly caremelised? would they?.
I had a veggie living with me for a while when i was in my twenties, it took 3 weeks of frying bacon on saturday mornings before he cracked and saw the error of his ways.
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Whenever I do a family buffet I just give the veggies the choice of pizza or quiche.
It is a nuisance catering for them!
Paul
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I just don't like veggies, they are probably the worlds biggest hypocrites, they don't eat meat but eat meat flavoured substitutes for meat. Thats just mental.
Ah, time for an argument, and there I was thinking it was going to be a quiet day :)
OK, here's my take on vegetarianism and vegetarians :
1) I am a carnivore through-and-through; I eat red meat, white meat, raw pork sausages (Richmond, of course), and think that a day without meat is a day wasted.
2) I respect vegetarians enormously. They are willing to live their lives according to their principles -- principles that in fact, I share. I don't want any animal to have to die just so that I can eat, but in reality those animals are going to die whether I eat them or not, so I put my principles to one side, conveniently forget the horrors of the abattoir (except when I drive past it, and see those poor sheep in their trailer, not yet knowing that they are about to die, but clearly sensing something terribly wrong) and then I remember why I ought to be a vegetarian.
So in reality, I make compromises : I eat beef, but not veal; chicken, but not poussin; Chinese crispy belly of pork, but not suckling pig, and so on. And all the while, I know that I am in the wrong, and vegetarians are in the right. I just wish I had the strength of character to be one.
** Phil.
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Why shouldn't an animal die just to provide meat? Thats how we evolved, fair enough we used to use the whole carcass bones skin n all but that was just the end product of our hunger and need to provide for our loved ones.
As for Veal, well thats an argument in itself, dairy farmers would love to be able to sell all the Young male cows that they produce for the table as apposed to dog food manufacturers and the like.
And i would quite happily eat the Veal, its crazy to throw it away. So what if its a baby cow. Same goes for suckling pig and all the other tasty ickle baby foodstuffs there are walking round.
I will say that i don't think much of fuar grar or whatever its called, you know, force fed geese. Thats a bit sick that.
Now if you force fed a cow beer then thats different, thats Kobi!.
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Why shouldn't an animal die just to provide meat?
Why should it have to ?
But I don't want to pursue this argument unnecessarily : I've already admitted that I eat meat, so I am in no position to criticise others who do the same. However, Stephen Lindsay's post (http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/curry/index.php?topic=4182.msg39942#msg39942) in another thread does really bring home the reality of the "life" of a battery hen. And serves to remind me why, for me at least, buying free-range birds (and free-range eggs) is not so much a choice as a necessity.
Oddly enough (I'm just reading back what you wrote for a second time), I do eat foie gras; that's inconsistent, I know. But I also know that in the market at Toulouse they have two-week-old lambs hanging on butchers' hooks, and that (to me) is simply obscene.
** Phil.
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I agree its an argument and i won't spend any more time ruining Domi's thread. Sorry Domi.
Try Googling for Anthony Bourdains Vegetarian Meatloaf recipe. Top chef that man.
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Try Googling for Anthony Bourdains Vegetarian Meatloaf recipe. Top chef that man.
Hmm, given the man's reputation (he is, after all, the man who called vegetarians "the enemy of everything good and decent in the human spirit, and an affront to all I stand for, the pure enjoyment of food"), I would expect "Anthony Bourdain's Vegetarian Meatloaf" to be made of vegetarians rather than for vegetarians !
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I prefered the bit about "the vegetarians hezbullah like off-shoot the Vegans..."or something similar.
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Hi
Domi, are you looking for simple out of a packet or more?
Regards
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hi domi if they like seafood then do them the best tandoori king prawn masala and the most fragrant pilau rice you have ever cooked! :o or cook evreything as you would ie turkey, pigs in blankets, roasties( not cooked in goose fat though lol), cabbage, broccoli, carrots, garden peas and paxo sage and onion stuffing and veg stock gravy and for meaters turkey gravy. you will have 1 very happy veggie don't waste your time with a nutloaf lol
hope this helps either way doing either dish will piss some 1 off ;)
regards
:)gary
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pmsl @ P&J....you sound just like my brother did before he converted ;D I can't understand it myself, he was a strict "meat every meal" kinda bloke and loved nothing more than drinking a good rich meaty gravy after a roast...He's 45 too so it's not just a phase ??? I respect his choice though, ro each their own I suppose :)
He's my big bro though and I love him to bits so I'm looking for a top-notch make at home recipe.....I just cannot abide to serve up some pre-made supermarket crapola :o
I did think of a veggie curry but it's not very festive though I could always stick a bit of holly on the top! ;D Maybe if I ply him with enough ale he won't notice what he's eating lol
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Hi
Domi, are you looking for simple out of a packet or more?
Regards
Much more commis! ;D Something way above a ratatouille and a nutloaf or a quorn bacon roll pmsl
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Hi
Domi, have a library of stuff, can do taste but texture is the long one. Ex vegan, organic farming friends!
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Sprout bhaji?
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Saag Aloo, plain veg curry (Madras Hot)and a naan. That should keep him sweet. :'( sinful no meat. >:(
Does anybody have recipes from Prashad in bradford? Vegi BIR.
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Domi, firstly I'm assuming that the only thing different on your brothers plate will be the "turkey and gravy". So a very simple one is vegetarian haggis, don't count out the "nut roast" as there are lots of variations and you should be able to do a onion gravy by now? Large field mushrooms and roasted courgets in a spiced roast veg gravy sounds good. Any feed back would help so I could narrow it down.
Regards
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Hi Commis ;)
Have you got a good nut roast recipe, please luv? I'm also thinking about a vegetarian wellington with some nice mushrooms and/or a top quality cheese if you've got one... I've got a great red wine and onion gravy recipe so that's covered. :) I don't want to use some vegetarian meat substitute though if possible.
Thanks for your help ;)
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I'm also thinking about a vegetarian wellington with some nice mushrooms
Brilliant idea, Domi : I remember a vegetarian girlfriend preparing mushroom pierogi for me on one occasion, using a mixture of fresh mshrooms and ceps, and they were absolutely out of this world. No idea from where she got the recipe, unfortunately, but Google may (as always) be your friend ...
P.S. I do remember that the pierogi dough was made using cream cheese, so this recipe (http://www.astray.com/recipes/?show=Pierogi cream cheese dough)
may be a good starting point, and it also contains a link to a pierogi mushroom filling.
** Phil.
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I can't remember which tv chef made it but there is a sort of Beef wellington where you substitute the beef for salmon, might be Rick stein, he's probably one of the best Sea food Chef's about.
Otherwise there's the Italian route, shellfish carbonara and the likes but thats not really a xmassy feel.
I'll have a mooch about a bit for you.
http://www.taste.com.au/recipes/3750/salmon+wellington (http://www.taste.com.au/recipes/3750/salmon+wellington)
Might be worth a try, seems easy and has good ratings.
If your using shrooms id go and buy, on top of your fresh ones, a pack of dried shitakis or mixed dried shrooms. Once soaked you've got probably the best tasting mushroom stock there is, in the water that you soaked them in. Add a bit of garlic and splash of white wine, a little cream and pepper and thats a damn good sauce.
Makes a nice chicken and mushroom pie.
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Can anyone recommend (or preferably provide ;D ) a good recipe alternative to Turkey/Goose please.
Just point them at the nearest gorse thicket and tell 'em it's an all-you-can-eat buffet. ;)
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Domi, the reason why I said haggis first is it's a nut roast in a bag. So only replacing the meat part of the meal, the wellington would be good but it's pastry and cheese so I think may detract from the other veg, that a Christmas meal comes with. I'd never put sprouts in a veg pie! Will have a look though.
Regards
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Hi P&J ;) my first thoughts were to a salmon wellington as I've made them many times before, but he's not a keen salmon-man :( plus we're having king prawn and/or smoked salmon starters so two courses similar may be a bit too much lol.
I'll have a look-out for a vegetarian haggis (my auld Faither'll be spinnin' in his grave! He couldn't get his head round sugar in porridge lol).
Just point them at the nearest gorse thicket and tell 'em it's an all-you-can-eat buffet. ;)
That reminds me, I must trim my bush up a bit :o
Hi
Domi, the reason why I said haggis first is it's a nut roast in a bag.
Regards
Crikey I'm surprised no-one's said that if I make a nut roast and eat it it's the same thing (eventually!) ....SS must be having a slow day ;D
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That reminds me, I must trim my bush up a bit :o
Well you've picked the right time of year for it, hover mowers are on sale just now. ;) ;D
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A lot of vegetarians here make "Tofurkeys." I''ve never had one, so I can't personally comment on the taste, but I've heard they are pretty good.
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Vegetarian alternative to turkey...
Albania perhaps?
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Vegetarian alternative to turkey...
Albania perhaps?
Go and sit on the naughty step, VC! :o ;D
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Domi
Thank goodness he has not got to pick at the bush!
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Just toying with ideas but if you want something to simply replace the turkey what about a vegetable rosti using sprouts, chestnuts, shallots, etc.?
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A veg rosti doesn't sound too exciting though, Axe - more of an accompaniment than the main show really? I'm looking for something with a bit more of a "WOW" factor really, something that requires a bit of effort (or looks like it does :P ).....I just don't know what......most of the best nut roast recipes I click on lead to the same recipe, posted on different boards so I guess it must be decent ??? (or maybe there's only one lol) I may combine that with the mushroom wellington idea though I'm waiting on commis's recipes :)
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No worries, it was just a thought. This sounds and looks rather yummy though:
http://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/2958/wild-mushroom-and-port-brioche (http://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/2958/wild-mushroom-and-port-brioche)
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lol I have that page bookmarked already, Axe ;D Great minds eh?
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Hi
Sorry I've not been back sooner,Domi have dug out recipes and most would end being served as a patie/cutlet. Not what I believe you are after,yes they can be cooked as a loaf but I keep looking back at the haggis, simple, tasty. The bbc are running this same question I believe.
Regards
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No problem commis ;) I've settled on a veggie wellington using a homemade mushroom pate, portobellos and a caramelised red onion "chutney" served with a lovely rich red wine and onion gravy - 'im indoors has been my guinea pig and has asked for the veggie option in favour of the xmas bird! :o
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Domi,room for one more? Please forward the recipe, still love the challenge to tempt the meat only people.
Regards, and a merry Christmas.
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Ok, veggies...yeah. Please tell me you'll use real lard in the pastry? :D
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Merry Christmas to you too commis :-* I'll type the recipe (s) up when I get time to spit lol ;D
Ok, veggies...yeah. Please tell me you'll use real lard in the pastry? :D
PMSL!
Sorry, P&J....pastry is all butter......but I will be doing the roasties in goosefat :o there'll be dauphinoise on offer too but I'll bet a tenner he'll have a roastie lol
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Mmmmm fat :-D
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Mmmmm fat :-D
Instant poll : how many of use normally roast potatoes in
a) Beef dripping
b) Goose fat
c) Cooking oil
d) Other (please specify)
e) We never roast potatoes.
** Phil.
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I always use goose fat or duck fat. I know it's far from the healthiest option but I think if you're going to have something, make it worth having....you can always walk/run it off after ;D