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Curry Chat => Lets Talk Curry => Topic started by: George on November 28, 2010, 02:58 PM
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For the 200th edition, they installed a gas fired tandoor in the studio but stressed that charcoal-fired is much better. See the various guests' attempts to get naan dough to stick inside the tandoor. Even the guest Indian chef fails at his first attempt.
The tandoor bit starts at about 5minutes in.
Catch it while you can:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/i/wdmdq/ (http://www.bbc.co.uk/i/wdmdq/)
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George and Curry Monsters, yes i seen the show!
The "chef" used the term nan bread i thought a nan is a bread. Its like saying a bread bread and he's a chef.
I have been looking into buying a charcoal tandoori oven for my garden but on the show the chef said "don't bother"
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Hi Graeme,
The "chef" used the term nan bread i thought a nan is a bread. Its like saying a bread bread and he's a chef.
I think to describe naan as 'naan bread' is correct. Ciabatta is a bread, and is often referred to as 'ciabatta bread' so I think the same can apply for naan.
Ray :)
P.S, I preferred your original, unedited reply in this post, gave me a bit of a giggle ;)
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I think to describe naan as 'naan bread' is correct. Ciabatta is a bread, and is often referred to as 'ciabatta bread' so I think the same can apply for naan.
Interesting : I wonder whether the expression "Na[a]n bread" is subconsciously inspired by considerations of euphony ? Whilst I might say "Na[a]n bread", I would never say "Keema na[a]n bread" but would automatically shorten it to "Keema na[a]n". And I would never append "bread" to "Chapatti", "Paratha" or "Roti", all of which are already polysyllabic.
** Phil.
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Phil,
It's a good point. Naan or Nan, pronounced 'Nahn' is often appended by 'bread' whereas Chapatti or Roti are not.
Another thing, I have no problem with referring to, two or more naan, as just Naan, whereas if I was referring to two or more Chapatti or Roti, I would definately use the words Chapatti's or Roti's?
Phil, you seem to be a well educated man, do you think that I could be using bad grammar here?
Ray :)
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Phil, you seem to be a well educated man, do you think that I could be using bad grammar here ?
The whole notion of "bad grammar" has been more-or-less thrown out of the window by the current school of descriptive grammarians :( And when it comes to trying to formalise a grammar for loan words (such as naan, chapathi or roti) within the context of everyday English usage, your guess would be as good as anybody's ! As regards the plural form, which I think was your real point, I treat all three of naan, chapathi and roti as both singular and plural, simply because I know that that is how they are used by native speakers (by listening to the waiter when he reads back the order). But there are many loan words from Indic languages which have been incorporated into standard English, and these now all take the plural "s" (bungalows, pyjamas, dungarees, jodphurs, and so on), so there is no reason to think that within a fairly short time naan, chapathi and roti will not have become fully assimilated into our English language and pluralised accordingly (i.e., take the plural "s").
** Phil.
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Oh dear. It took a long time for any comment on that TV prog and then all we get is a debate on a trivial aspect.
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Sorry George, to trivialise your post but a member had made an observation which I think deserved a response.
As for the show, well, did you expect some highly intellectual conversation over watching somebody do something that we already know about?
If so, sorry to let you down :(
Ray :)
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I was planning to watch it, and indeed tried, but got totally p1ss@d off when I discovered that the BBC's i-player seemingly cannot search to a random location, and I didn't want to sit and wait five minutes for the tandoori bit to start. Anyhow, I left it buffering, and have just restarted it, and am now watching. First comment, the chef's credentials (http://www.redhotcurry.com/profiles/vivek_singh.htm) are excellent, and his "naan bread" didn't come across as strange-sounding to me. More when I have watched more.
Hmm, I've watched more : now I remember why we don't watch terrestrial television :( The BBC seem unable to separate their two missions -- to educate and to entertain -- and insist on conflating both in each and every programme. If only this were presented with "to educate" uppermost in their corporate mind, it could be great; as it is, they have to trivialise things by ensuring that it "entertains" at the same time. Not for me, I am afraid, though I will force myself to watch it to the bitter end.
Or maybe not. Anyhow, the recipe (http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/tandoori_breast_of_squab_58130) is online, so I think some of us had better try it and see how we get on. Interesting that the web site says "squab" (young pigeon) : I didn't hear anyone on the programme mention that.
Now even more confused : since when has product placement been permitted on the BBC ? "Yalumba Bush Vine 2008" at Majestic from GBP 7.99 ? I thought I paid my licence fee in order to not to have to put up with this sort of covert advertising : how much did Yalumba and Majestic pay in order to gain this preferential treatment, I wonder ?
Final afterthought : I wonder if I can make an FoI enquiry as to how much Yalumba and Majestic paid for product placement, and then submit this in evidence when the Government next review the BBC's application to increase its licence fee ?!
** Phil.
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BBC's i-player seemingly cannot search to a random location
That's odd Phil, as I am able to move to any part of the video.
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Hi Phil,
You are correct, they didn't use the word squab but they did say pigeon. Don't think any of the BIR's that I frequent have pigeon on the menu, so I'll have to stick with chicken.
As for the "naan bread", no real surprises there for me. Pity he didn't give an alternative cooking method for the naan bread; that would have made the whole 12 minutes or so, worth while.
Thanks for posting George, it was entertaining, if not educational.
Ray :)
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it was entertaining, if not educational.
Indeed !
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Hiya, i like watching Saturday kitchen, its entertaining as well as...how can i say this....well it makes me bloody hungry!! (think thats the correct spalling).
The tandoori chuck looked nice and tasty, lots of mention of how the yoghurt helps keep the chicken moist too, which is a good point. As are the remarks about Tandoor chef's only having hair on one arm :) where do the missing hairs go though??.
The chefs, both James and the Indian guy, whose name i've forgotten, both said that a Charcoal Tandoor gives a much better result, so if you was gonna get one, get a charcoal jobbie. I don't think they meant don't get one at all.
I always call Naan bread Naan bread, it is a bread, unleavened i think. But it don't matter, shit, if you ask a waiter for a Naan or a Naan bread, you get the same end result.
Right im orf to trawl through the thorums and sea whot iv mised then im gonna goo and reed sum moor shakespeare.
;)
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;) ;D
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Hehe :) forgot to mention, also the thing that stuck out to me most about the whole Tandoori cooking segment was when they painted the finished Naans with melted butter.
This for me is enough to show that the Naans would have been proper ones. You can't beat a Naan thats been liberally smothered in Ghee/Butter!, Even better, painted then bunged back in to give a nice sweet crunch on the blisters.
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recipe (http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/tandoori_breast_of_squab_58130)[/u][/color] is online, so I think some of us had better try it and see how we get on.
Many thanks for posting the recipe link. It saved me looking for it.
It's easy to move forward however minutes you like by dragging the scroll bar thing on the iPlayer.
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Thanks for posting George, it was entertaining, if not educational.
I thought it was a bit of both. I only posted it because I found it interesting, as in educational, even if only to reconfirm what we may already know.
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Even better, painted then bunged back in to give a nice sweet crunch on the blisters.
G@d, it sounds just like mediaeval foot torture (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foot_roasting) :(
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It's easy to move forward however minutes you like by dragging the scroll bar thing on the iPlayer.
Ah, tried that George; it just seemed to hang there. It's much better now that it has buffered the whole thing, but it doesn't (didn't ?) seem to have the real-time seek capability that one normally gets with streaming video. Maybe because their copy-protection interferes !
** Phil.
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G@d, it sounds just like mediaeval foot torture :(
Lol
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I promise never to bring up the subject of naan's ever again :-)
Yes, I brush mine with a mix of gee and salted butter sometimes the mix has garlic in it too.