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Title: Congratulations!
Post by: Cory Ander on June 04, 2010, 05:29 PM
23 out of the 30 "most recent posts" (i.e. a whopping 77%!) are now absolutely nothing to do with (British) Indian curries (and the percentage rarely drops below 50%). 

Time to finally move on I feel, the plot seems to be well and truly lost, I'm sorry to say :-\
Title: Re: Congratulations!
Post by: Razor on June 04, 2010, 05:49 PM
23 out of the 30 "most recent posts" (i.e. a whopping 77%!) are now absolutely nothing to do with (British) Indian curries (and the percentage rarely drops below 50%). 

Time to finally move on I feel, the plot seems to be well and truly lost, I'm sorry to say :-\

Shame you feel that way CA, albeit it, that the post's you mention have been posted in the "Anything other than curry" section!

Activity over the last couple of evenings have been particularly slow, boring infact. 

With a bit of luck, the "curry testers section" will generate some conversation and hopefully, inspire ALL members to challenge the reviews and get back to searching for the answers that we're all looking for.

Ray :)
Title: Re: Congratulations!
Post by: Domi on June 04, 2010, 07:21 PM
We're having our week of summer over here in the UK lol it's just too hot for slaving over a cooker for me lol
Title: Re: Congratulations!
Post by: chriswg on June 04, 2010, 07:54 PM
I agree, it's just too hot for curry at the moment. No doubt the rain will be back by Sunday so the curry chat will continue.
Title: Re: Congratulations!
Post by: Mikka1 on June 04, 2010, 08:05 PM
Baking and humid here. Dunno what the problem is CA. I thought it relaxed and a lot of fun. It's why I started posting again.

Chipfryer.
Cheers
Title: Re: Congratulations!
Post by: JerryM on June 05, 2010, 08:20 AM
CA,

i'm with u on this one. the weather does have an effect as we already know from the past. the other posts are not a problem as i don't bother to read them.

what is important to me is to further enhance our curry expertise. i also suppose if others are similar to my position we are sort of stuck on how to make further progress.
Title: Re: Congratulations!
Post by: Cory Ander on June 05, 2010, 09:06 AM
I fail to see why "the weather" entices people to talk about anything but curry!

The forum seems to have become a bit of a "Woman's Institute" chit chat forum to me!  Just meaningless chit chat for the sake of it!  As you say Ray, it's VERY boring (except, perhaps, to a small number of members)!

I cannot, for one minute, believe that anyone would come here ( A BRITISH INDIAN RESTAURANT RECIPE AND CHAT FORUM!) and anticipate the forum being inundated with discussions on roast beef, pizza, doughnuts, chips, computer viruses and such like! 

By the way, it's now at 29 out of 30 most recent posts (97%!!!!!!) being about anything other than BIR curries!

Well done guys, read 'em an' weep!  :(
Title: Re: Congratulations!
Post by: Secret Santa on June 05, 2010, 09:46 AM
The forum seems to have become a bit of a "Woman's Institute"

You should feel right at home then!  ;D
Title: Re: Congratulations!
Post by: Cory Ander on June 05, 2010, 10:06 AM
You should feel right at home then!  ;D

Yes, yes, typically the comment I'd expect from you SS, "you tedious little man"  ::)

But you're right, I am definately on the wrong forum.  I thought it was primarily about BIR curries. It seems I am sadly mistaken  :-\
Title: Re: Congratulations!
Post by: Malc. on June 05, 2010, 10:07 AM
I fail to see how members discussing topics in a section that invites discussion of other things detracts from the forum. On the contrary, it invites people to post on a variety of different subjects that they may feel more comfortable and helps to get people involved.

The lack of discussion on the remainder of the forum? Well, it's hardly surprising with all the negative posting that has been made recently. There are many amongst us who do want to discuss and develop ideas in an attempt to move forward, but when the topics are continually derailed with arguments and aggressive posts, you find that the discussion moves to PM. I have a alot of pm's sitting in my inbox most of which are largely to do with BIR and moving forwards.

If you want to look at why members aren't posting then I suggest you look there first. Afterall, who wants to join or post on a forum when long term members continually argue. To imply that it is the fault of others, myself included, is simply not on.

It's certainly not a very friendly forum at the moment. I go out of my way to welcome newcomers that take the trouble to say hello along with Razor and one or two others, but no-one else seems to takes the trouble to do so. A fact that both of us have noticed.

Rather than complaining, arguing or just being negative, why not start a new topic to discuss the curry you want to discuss. Posting sarcastic topics is not endearing and does nothing to rectify the problem.

I'm sorry if you feel that it is not my place to say anything but I can not just sit here reading all this nonsense without feeling disappointed. If you feel that you can not contribute positively anymore, then perhaps you should move on. But myself and i'm sure many others of this forum would rather prefer it if you found a way to continue on in a positive way.

Title: Re: Congratulations!
Post by: Cory Ander on June 05, 2010, 10:09 AM
I fail to see how members discussing topics in a section that invites discussion of other things detracts from the forum.

To the extent of NINETY SEVEN PERCENT Axe!  :o
Title: Re: Congratulations!
Post by: Cory Ander on June 05, 2010, 10:10 AM
On the contrary, it invites people to post on a variety of different subjects that they may feel more comfortable and helps to get people involved.

B*llocks!  It's only 4 of you engaging in the drivel!  Much of which is pretty sleazy (and bl**dy irritating!), too, to say the least!
Title: Re: Congratulations!
Post by: Cory Ander on June 05, 2010, 10:16 AM
Anyway, enough of all that, have fun!  8)
Title: Re: Congratulations!
Post by: Mikka1 on June 05, 2010, 11:41 AM
It's being happy that keeps you going isn't it CA?  ;D
No one died did they?

Ok I'll refrain from making friends, gee man. If you have a problem ban me lol!
Title: Re: Congratulations!
Post by: Razor on June 05, 2010, 11:45 AM
Oh, c'mon CA, lighten up will you.

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B*llocks!  It's only 4 of you engaging in the drivel!  Much of which is pretty sleazy (and bl**dy irritating!), too, to say the least!

Where's the sleaze in any of these topics?

TomTom.......No sleaze, just a member asking other members for advise!
Result..........No sleaze, just Domi sharing her good news with members that she feels would be interested.
Chippy Chips.........My comment on asking the chippy lady if "she had brown baps"  could be construed as sleazy, by some.  To me, it's just good old, "carry on film" type sense of humour!  Nothing to get upset about!

Really, if we want members to start contributing to the forum, we ALL need to kick this petty squabbling in to touch.  If it was your kids carrying on like this, you would probably ground them, or dish out some other punishment.

Just to point out, the forum started to go stale, just about the time, that the arguments started over your moderating activity CA.  At the time, you received plenty of support from other members, myself included, and most of us, asked you not to step down as moderator.  However, in-spite of the support you received, you, in the end, decided to step down, which is your right.

Unfortunately CA, since then, most of your post's have been of a sarcastic nature, mainly aimed at George and SS.  I can understand why you do this, even though I wish you wouldn't.  You have way way to much to offer this forum, with your knowledge and grasp of BIR fayre, so why resort to slaughtering members because they choose to discuss topics that you have no interest in?  Take a leaf out of JerryM's book, don't read them!

CA,

I'm with u on this one. the weather does have an effect as we already know from the past. the other posts are not a problem as i don't bother to read them.

Forums do go stale from time to time, that's just the nature of the beast I'm afraid, so it's our responsibility as members to make it more interesting, and inviting to new members.  That's why I personally think Chris's Curry panel is a great idea.  Ok, it was unfortunately titled, something that Chris admitted himself, but the response that he received, was nothing short of disgraceful.  Chris obviously recognised the need to give the forum a boost, and yet certain members would be quite happy for the idea never to take flight!

Another point I'd like to make, what has happened to the old stalwarts such as Darthphall, CurryKing, Haldi and so on?  Why don't they post anymore?  And before anyone suggests that it's because the forum is shite, they haven't posted in ages!  Even Admin (Stew) barely post's anything. It would suggest to me that this "drivel and sleaze" as you put it CA, is not a recent phenomena on cr0, or maybe you could offer a better explanation?

CA, I make no secret of the fact, that I am a fan of yours and your recipes, I think you have done more than anyone on this site to try to achieve what we are all looking for in one way or another, but at the moment you are contributing, like the rest of us, very little, which is a crying shame.  Your recipes, more than anyones have inspired me most.  Even now, I have about a litre of your base in my freezer, along side my own.  I have a big tub of your curry masala in my cupboard, along side my own.  When ever I click to view who's on-line, the vast majority of guest's and members are viewing your recipes!  You have too much to offer than this negativity your showing at the moment.  Please, lead by example, and others will follow, especially new members.

Can we all please stop all this nonsense now?  Let's get the forum back to what it used to be, let's encourage new members whenever we can.  Let's entice these guest's to become members.  I know that cooking is a passion, and I know that people have strong feelings regarding certain dishes, but at the end of the day, it should be fun, and not an excuse to kick off over the slightest thing.

Ray
Title: Re: Congratulations!
Post by: George on June 05, 2010, 12:42 PM
I suggest there's a big difference between (a) threads which aren't curry-related but do interest some people and (b) mindless drivel more akin to a chat room. I'm pleased to see that the latter category (b) is seldom a big issue here.

I'm grateful to people who made a sensible contribiution to the thread I started on Roast Beef. I'm also very interested in topics like pizza, chips and Chinese food. Whilst I didn't mind CA's light-hearted comment about turning the joint of roast beef into beef curry, that was the closest we got to off-topic, irrelevant drivel, so it's interesting to note he's the  one complaining now.
Title: Re: Congratulations!
Post by: Cory Ander on June 05, 2010, 01:04 PM
Whilst I didn't mind CA's light-hearted comment about turning the joint of roast beef into beef curry, that was the closest we got to off-topic, irrelevant drivel, so it's interesting to note he's the  one complaining now.

Heaven forbid we should talk about curry on a CURRY FORUM George!!!  Words fail me, they really do!  ::)
Title: Re: Congratulations!
Post by: Cory Ander on June 05, 2010, 01:08 PM
Take the message, guys, "most recent posts" are mostly about anything other than BIR curries now (97%!?  :o). 

And THAT, to my mind, is WAY out of kilter and downright boring and very annoying for any of us focused on replicating BIR curries (for a supposed "curry forum")  :-\
Title: Re: Congratulations!
Post by: Domi on June 05, 2010, 01:20 PM
The thing is, at the mo I'm using Razor's base, Axe's IG bhajis, CA's naans, UB's pathia, Stew's Bradford Based Gravy, Dip's madras/BE Madras but since I've already posted on them I'm not going to constantly go back and post how I found the recipes each and every time, nor am I on a hot day (or what is a hot day for the UK lol) going to stand over a hot pan of base, a hot deep fat fryer nor have the oven on at top whack - I'm a sadist not a masochist! lol

Not forgetting we are currently waiting on Chris' new section to open to give a bit of fresh impetus to the board (and get people using different recipes to their own personal faves/staples) and I really hope it takes off without the negativity we've had on here of late. A bit of banter lightens up what can be a very staid board (I've had PM's and emails from members saying how refreshing it is to have some light-heartedness and joking on the board because it's way too serious at times and that in itself puts members off of posting.

The whole point of the off-topic section is to discuss anything at all and lambasting members for posting in there doesn't entice them into joining in to any other discussion, curry-related or otherwise. I don't see anything wrong with people requesting different recipes, surely members helping other members out is only a positive thing?

It's time to get away from the petty arguments that do nothing for the members involved or the forum as a whole. It's not possible to have curry in the morning, curry in the evening and curry at supper time for alot of members (not that the majority would like it that way either as it would get old very quickly!) whilst it may appeal to some, alot of us have families that sadly demand food from other genres lol and I'm sure that given the choice, the Admin would rather have members names at the bottom of his board and posts on his forums than no members online and posts going out to other forums.
Title: Re: Congratulations!
Post by: emin-j on June 05, 2010, 03:12 PM
For me personally I feel I have reached a level that I am happy to cruise with ( all thanks' to this Forum and Forum Members ) I can now produce a Madras,Korma,Veggy Curry,and Onion Bhaji's that are as good as most of our local T/A and as such do not spend as much time on the Forum as I used to, hungry ( no pun intended ) for knowledge to make that perfect BIR tasting Curry. I do have other interests but still pop in on the Forum most evenings just to see if a massive ' break through' has been made by someone and any topics that are non BIR and that I don't find interesting I just don't bother to read .
CA , You have contributed with excellent information,recipes and practical advice but sometimes feel your pi$$ taking and argumentative way is sometimes OTT  :(
You current comments on this thread remind me of my kids when they were younger when not getting there own way  :D so lighten up CA or don't read any posts that don't interest you or if you feel it's time to move on please leave your recipes on the way out  ;D ATB.
Title: Re: Congratulations!
Post by: emin-j on June 05, 2010, 10:57 PM
 :D
(http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/imagehost/pics/6d3e3526c6acc8bf74e715760d740d1d.jpg) (http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/imagehost/#6d3e3526c6acc8bf74e715760d740d1d.jpg)
Title: Re: Congratulations!
Post by: canicant on June 06, 2010, 09:36 AM
What's that a recipe for? 'Birds Nest Soup' or 'Thread Egg Noodles' ;D

Rob.
Title: Re: Congratulations!
Post by: JerryM on June 06, 2010, 10:32 AM
apologies but i've skipped to the end of this post.

i think in a nut shell for me the site clearly needs a chat room - the dribble can go on in their to it's hart's content.

why i say this is for individuals to think "before" posting how usefull u're individual post is to the rest of the membership - trawling through dribble to find the key nuggets is just boring and a waste of time.

i think other posts do have an important part in the forum and i've really appreciated the beef, chips etc it's just the dribble that's creeping in.

we do seem to have lost the focus or plot though - to collectively improve our BIR skills - this is what the site is good at - we don't want to loose it by being collective plonkers.
Title: Re: Congratulations!
Post by: peterandjen on June 06, 2010, 11:00 AM
Too hot for curry???? you should be banned! its never either too hot or too cold for curry!.
This week ive made a chicken Balti, prawn balti madras, and aloo balti and balti madras.
All of them were lovely, all of them made with Dipuraja's recipe(minus the paste) and i must say that i think Dips recipes are the dogs.
Title: Re: Congratulations!
Post by: Domi on June 06, 2010, 11:38 AM
I think rather than complaining that people aren't talking about curry, wouldn't it be better to actually start discussions that ARE curry related to get people talking rather than whinging and causing more bad feeling about topics posted in the OFF TOPIC section (it is what it's there for, after all!) ???
Title: Re: Congratulations!
Post by: Mikka1 on June 06, 2010, 12:01 PM
Thanks Ermin that made me larf royally  ;D
I've seen one of those  ::)

Seriously though, Domi has it in my view. Start a curry food topic, I can't believe we were slammed for talking about chippy Chips in the non curry section. Its a common question which I think was answered very well by many.

I'll get back to my curry cooking ways soon, I've had a lot on frankly.
As they say over here.
Peaceout.
Best regards to all.
Me.
Title: Re: Congratulations!
Post by: JerryM on June 07, 2010, 07:01 AM
It's not about stopping non curry chat - that's what it's there for and adds to the site for me and i'm sure a lot of members. beef, chips whatever it is - it's well worth posting when there is value to the membership.

the issue is all about the value of the post - there is chat and post - we're currently (and have done so off and on in the past) doing both in post and that's not good for anyone. trouble is at the mo chat is more to the detriment of post.

the real worry for me is that no one inc CA seems interested in pushing our BIR learning.

ps quality of posting is spot on today for me
Title: Re: Congratulations!
Post by: Malc. on June 07, 2010, 10:32 AM
Jerry, i'd agree to a point that on a serious topic it is better to stay with the main course of the topic. That is why a forum needs moderators, to ensure that topics that derail or go off topic can be tidied up. But in topics that aren't so serious, it's good to have a little light hearted humour or banter.

I often wonder whether the option to view recent posts adds to the problem. For some reason, I have never got into the habit of using this feature on any forum and rely simply on the icons of each forum section to tell me where new posts are to be found. This does mean that I can simply pick the topics I want to read, without having to scroll through all the replies in general.

I am sure there are quite a few of us that want to move with the BIR quest. New members joining will almost certainly want to. Topics will get repeated and old ground re-covered. But we have have to encourage people to post if we are to move forward.
Title: Re: Congratulations!
Post by: Paul1980 on June 07, 2010, 01:30 PM
It might of be a bit slow at the weekend's if some members are like me. I only go on here at work whilst skiving  :P
Title: Re: Congratulations!
Post by: Domi on June 07, 2010, 04:35 PM
It's not about stopping non curry chat - that's what it's there for and adds to the site for me and i'm sure a lot of members. beef, chips whatever it is - it's well worth posting when there is value to the membership.

the issue is all about the value of the post - there is chat and post - we're currently (and have done so off and on in the past) doing both in post and that's not good for anyone. trouble is at the mo chat is more to the detriment of post.

the real worry for me is that no one inc CA seems interested in pushing our BIR learning.

ps quality of posting is spot on today for me

Sorry, Jerry I was referring to comments made about topics posted in the off-topic section. I appreciate that off-topic chat/banter can be annoying in threads and have taken on board what you said, luv ;) Consider my wrist slapped lol ;D

It might of be a bit slow at the weekend's if some members are like me. I only go on here at work whilst skiving  :P

:o I'm going to report you!..... 8)how much is it worth to keep me mouth shut? :P
Title: Re: Congratulations!
Post by: JerryM on June 08, 2010, 07:26 AM
Topics will get repeated and old ground re-covered. But we have have to encourage people to post if we are to move forward.

Axe,

spot on - this is exactly what i'm getting at. i've gone through a few yrs of posts and have improved my efforts way beyond my expectations. i'm still not as close as i'd like to be. all i'm saying is that our primary efforts should be on moving fwd. light hearted chat will always be good but not to the detriment of making progress - otherwise this is the wrong site for many of us (the site would have changed what i understand it's mission statement to be).

Domi,

my comments are not targeted at any individual. it's only negative antagonistic post's that get me fed up - thankfully not that many. i know for one that it's very easy to go off topic and have done so myself. best wishes.
Title: Re: Congratulations!
Post by: Stephen Lindsay on June 08, 2010, 01:42 PM
Why has this thread been placed in the section "let's talk curry?"
Title: Re: Congratulations!
Post by: Stephen Lindsay on June 09, 2010, 01:35 PM
I see it has now been moved to the "talk about anything other than curry" section which seems more relevant